Windows 10: Impact of using Visual C++ Redistributables: win7 and win10

Discus and support Impact of using Visual C++ Redistributables: win7 and win10 in Windows 10 BSOD Crashes and Debugging to solve the problem; This is a story about the impact/issues of Visual C++ redistributables in a win10 upgrade. And a request about ameliorating an issue. I use Corel... Discussion in 'Windows 10 BSOD Crashes and Debugging' started by Davidk03, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. Davidk03 Win User

    Impact of using Visual C++ Redistributables: win7 and win10


    This is a story about the impact/issues of Visual C++ redistributables in a win10 upgrade. And a request about ameliorating an issue.


    I use Corel Video Studio VS: a video editor program extensively. Each version a new one annually, 2 or 3 service packs in between makes considerable use of MS Visual C++ redistributables, by year and in several versions x86 and x64, each with different version numbers. A single version may use 4 or 5 of them. See screenshot for 5 versions of VS on a win7 PC


    Impact of using Visual C++ Redistributables:  win7 and win10 d1acd47f-7650-40eb-8a11-ec34f2128ab4?upload=true.jpg



    The VS program allows several different versions to be installed on the same PC, altho only one can run at any one time. And the program runs with same constraints under windows 7 and 10 Corel spec, and reports from various other users.

    Under windows 7, I have 5 versions of VS installed for reasons related to class tutoring, and they all run consistently. I've tried upgrading to windows 10 3 times, and on 2 of those times I aborted the upgrade and reverted to win 7 because of issues with VS that I traced to the use of C++redistributables. It's been an immensely frustrating experience.


    Upgrade try 1 - was using the MS recommended in-place method. After it was done, each VS version opened correctly, but at at specific place where modes changed, the program failed to complete a screen panel action correctly: hung up. And in that condition that only escape was using task manager to kill the program. Every VS version responded in an identical way. Various actions like driver regressions etc did not rectify the issue.


    Upgrade try 2 - was a clean install of windows 10. Once done, I re-installed VS, and this indicated the source of the issue when VS requested permission to download the re-distributables. Installed, program ran correctly. I researched this and found that 1 MS recommended that re-dist run under the same runtime as they were created for, and 2 the runtime, part of the OS, is quite different between win7 and win10. And the re-dist versions installed under win10 were quite different versions to those installed under win10. Further research: MS stated it tries to update each re-dist when OS changes or version updates occur. I abandoned this upgrade attempt for "other reasons", but it showed a path to success with VS and re-distributables.


    Upgrade try 3 - was an in-place upgrade to address the "other reasons" from try 2. When done I completely uninstalled every version of VS, and all its plug-ins, and the every version of C++ redistributable in the P&F listing. tedious to say the least. After done, clean up, using cclean including the registry., and re-boot. Installed 2 versions of VS, oldest one first, and after each one, checked that the previous screen panel issue in that version had been fixed; it was. But then I noted that after the latest install, and correct screen panel operation was OK, a check of the older version showed it had reverted to the hung condition. It looked very like the C++ redistributables worked on the latest version of VS installed.


    Very frustrated, I used a backup to recover to win 7 where everything works fine. Starting from a clean install, or a new PC, running win10, multiple versions of VS are running elsewhere without this issue. Which is what I had hoped to emulate.

    So, the questions? is/are what could cause the C++ re-distributables to act like this? Is there something that was necessary that I did not do when cleaning out the win7 components?

    :)
     
    Davidk03, Jun 4, 2020
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  2. Davidk03 Win User

    Visual C++ redistributables and associated runtime

    This query is about how Visual C++ redistributables and runtime are used by the OS.

    Background

    In a recent upgrade from win7 to win10, I encountered a program malfunction that - with a lot of experimentation - led to the probable cause being visual C++ redistributables installed under win7 migrated "in-place" to win10. Specifically, the program with
    them worked in win 7, the migrated combination did not work in win10, but when installed from scratch on a "clean" win10, did work.

    Question 1

    How is the runtime (necessary to make the redistributable package work) installed

    a. as part of the OS?

    b. as part of the package itself?

    Question 2

    Could a runtime/package combination used in win7 and migrated to win10 be repaired in win10 without re-installing absolutely everything, including the OS?

    If so, how?
     
    Davidk03, Jun 4, 2020
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  3. Visual C++ Redistributable won't install?

    This issue might if the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package is not installed properly.

    I suggest you to uninstall any existing Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable Package and install the latest Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package to check if it helps.

    Follow the below steps:

    Step 1: Uninstall the exiting Microsoft Visual C++.

    a) Press Windows key + x key and select
    Programs and Features
    .

    b) Right click on the Microsoft Visual C++ and uninstall it.

    Step 2: Download the latest Microsoft Visual C++ and install it.

    Refer to the below link:

    Download Visual C++ Redistributable Packages for Visual Studio 2013 from Official Microsoft Download Center
     
    Andre Da Costa, Jun 4, 2020
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  4. Impact of using Visual C++ Redistributables: win7 and win10

    Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015 x64 Installation Failure

    I suggest you to uninstall any existing Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable Package and install the latest Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package to check if it helps.

    Follow the below steps:

    Step 1: Uninstall the exiting Microsoft Visual C++.

    a) Press Windows key + x key and select
    Programs and Features
    .

    b) Right click on the Microsoft Visual C++ and uninstall it.

    Step 2: Download the latest Microsoft Visual C++ and install it.

    Download Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015
     
    Andre Da Costa, Jun 4, 2020
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