Windows 10: Why do you keep trying to "repair" my non-NTFS filesystems?

Discus and support Why do you keep trying to "repair" my non-NTFS filesystems? in Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware to solve the problem; I am completely fed up with your OS acting like my connected EXT filesystems are some foreign thing your developers never heard of. Grow up and write... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware' started by nicetry4, May 6, 2021.

  1. nicetry4 Win User

    Why do you keep trying to "repair" my non-NTFS filesystems?


    I am completely fed up with your OS acting like my connected EXT filesystems are some foreign thing your developers never heard of. Grow up and write the code to interact with them properly. You people are utter clowns. Do you enjoy looking incredibly stupid, or what? Fine with me, except when it wastes MY time. That's a problem. I'll give you 2 months to fix this. After that, if I see, even one time, a "scan and repair" message about a non-NTFS filesystem, I'll commit for the rest of my life to breaking up your company, and insult anyone who I find out works for it. When you're

    :)
     
    nicetry4, May 6, 2021
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  2. xp ntfs permissions erased - help!

    NEVER, ever, remove FULL CONTROL permissions in the Access Control Lists/rights priveleges from:

    • Administators Group
    • YOUR local Administrator User
    • SYSTEM
    on NTFS rights on your disks (via Explorer.exe rightclick properties menu, security tab) that use that filesystem, OR in the REGISTRY either, via rightclick on HIVES/KEYS permissions popup menu options...

    (Sure way to lock yourself out, period, & I have done it myself early on w/ NTFS filesystems &/or the Registry before... only way to learn sometimes, is making mistakes!)

    * Keep this in mind, those of you that start experimenting w/ security @ these 2 levels!

    APK

    P.S.=> Leaving them @ FULL POWER, in both areas, usually 9/10 times allows you to get back into your rig (logging on as your LOCAL ADMINISTRATOR USER, to fix it), & make alterations to rights/acl's as needed, to "get it right", eventually... especially when you're still learning/experimenting! apk
     
    Alec§taar, May 6, 2021
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  3. Convert RAW Filesystem into NTFS

    So this is an interesting story. I have an USB-Stick with 64gb space on it. I so far only used it for readyboost because i didnt really find an other use for it. But today, i wanted to set up an virtual machine and needed the usb-stick. I realized i had
    an windows backup on it and wanted to delete it because it was taking up too much space. So i just moved to the recycle bin and moved on. However when i tried the media creation tool to install windows 10 on it it failed at 50% at the "Creating windows 10
    media" part. After doing some research i found out it somehow changed from an NTFS filesystem into an RAW one. I cannot access it anymore nor format it. I have tried chkdsk command in command prompt and several other external tools (most which needed payment
    so i just gave up on that) with no luck.

    In conclusion what im trying to do is change the Filesystem from RAW into NTFS.

    OS: Windows 10 Home Insider Build (Build 20241.rs_prerelease.201016-1450)

    USB-Stick: Verbatim Micro OTG USB Device (64 GB)

    Stuff i tried:

    - Command "chkdsk" with only it returning "The type of the file system is RAW. CHKDSK is not available for RAW drives."

    - Windows Disk managment

    - External tools (most which were just demanding for money and didnt actually do anything)

    Thanks in advance.
     
    Konstantin_432, May 6, 2021
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  4. Hydranix Win User

    Why do you keep trying to "repair" my non-NTFS filesystems?

    NTFS vs ExFAT for a non-system SSD


    [TL;DR use NTFS]

    You will not gain any benefit. Accessing the disk will be several orders of magnitude slower as total amount of files increase.

    ExFAT is good for small partitions that don't carry any important data, it is just as fragile as FAT32 and other non-journaling filesystems.
    FAT32 Is good for compatibility with almost any device, which usually outweighs it's fragility.

    NTFS will be faster, will support TRIM (critical for SSDs), there is better filesystem caching, there is metadata to make some filesystem accesses instant. Most importantly though, NTFS is a journaling filesystem. That means, in simplest terms, that every operation is first recorded to the journal before it is actually carried on the data section of the disk. If there is sudden powerless, BSoD, or other unexpected mishap, even if the system was writing data to the filesystem, you have a very high chance of recovering most if not all of the data.

    The FAT family of filesystems are extremely simple in operation. This sound good at first, especially for SSDs, but once you look into it further you can see it's folly. Basically FAT filesystems have 2 parts to them. An index, and a big pile of clusters. Kind of like a big ass book with a nice table of contents which is easy to read, but then followed by eleven thousand pages of size-1 font print with no pictures. To access each and every file, the system has to look through the index, one-by-one until it finds what it wants. Then it's gotta zoom to that cluster and hope that the data it expects I actually there. If it isn't, to bad so sad, files gone forever.

    Games will suffer even more. Especially steam games which make frequent accesses to game data stored in archives and databases.

    Leave FAT and friends for the floppy disks and digital cameras. Just about any other device can and should use a filesystem that doesn't suck. To bad Windows doesn't have a btrfs driver.
     
    Hydranix, May 6, 2021
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