Windows 10: 4 GB RAM - How will it run on Windows 10?

Discus and support 4 GB RAM - How will it run on Windows 10? in Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance to solve the problem; You have (basically) paged and non-paged functions in memory. , are you referring to Kernel memory - because that is a special case. I was making a... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance' started by Jesse Williams, Jan 26, 2015.

  1. usasma Win User

    4 GB RAM - How will it run on Windows 10?


    , are you referring to Kernel memory - because that is a special case. I was making a generalization in an attempt to help the discussion about VM's and swap/pagefiles. It was not meant to be a 100% technically correct statement.
     
    usasma, Feb 2, 2015
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  2. shimself Win User

    I upgraded (by accident) from 7 to 10 a few days ago. I am definitely seeing lots of swapping making it very slow, task manager is frequently showing 100% disk activity*.
    Tosh r830 laptop, i3 4G.

    It might be because the C partition is nearly full (I keep data on a different partition), do you think it's worth resizing partitions?

    While I am here, do you think it's worth doing a clean install and reinstalling the programs?

    Thanks
    * PS I quite like the new task manager
     
    shimself, May 23, 2016
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  3. ARC
    Arc Win User
    What is the size of the C drive and how much is empty there?

    If you prefer to stay with windows 10, a clean install will be really good. I prefer a clean install over an upgrade.
     
  4. shimself Win User

    4 GB RAM - How will it run on Windows 10?

    Thanks
    42M 2free
     
    shimself, May 23, 2016
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  5. DavidY Win User
    I think all versions of Windows are unhappy on a partition which is nearly full.

    You may find that a lot of space is taken up by "windows.old" which would normally be created by the upgrade process, and allows you to revert back to the earlier version of Windows for a month.

    If you're happy with Windows 10, one option would be to take a backup (in case you later discover there's some file in Windows.old which you need) and then delete windows.old, which may free up enough space without resizing partitions.

    A clean install is better, but I've had reasonably good experiences with upgrade installs so far.
     
    DavidY, May 23, 2016
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  6. ARC
    Arc Win User
    You mean 42 MB total and 2 MB free? *Think

    If I had been in your place, I would have used a 100 MB C drive.
     
  7. Wynona Win User
    Aha, so you got one of those sneaky updates? *Smile

    If you're comfortable resizing, I'd go for that. I use external drives for my data as a "data safety" measure. For me, resizing isn't something I enter into lightly.

    I would recommend a clean install because you've upgraded from Windows 7. So far, I haven't seen very many systems that actually work right when upgraded from Windows 7. You probably answered your question re a clean install with this statement:

     
    Wynona, May 23, 2016
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  8. 4 GB RAM - How will it run on Windows 10?

    OK so if I disable paging, by choosing the third radio button shown below:


    4 GB RAM - How will it run on Windows 10? [​IMG]


    Will that also negate the benefit that you and Mystere are speaking of (with regarding to memory management and application loading)? Or does this just pertain to swapping out memory?
     
    Jody Thornton, May 23, 2016
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  9. LMiller7 Win User
    Disabling the pagefile will impair Windows ability to efficiently manage memory. Some of the memory management features of Windows 10 require there be an adequately sized pagefile. Also note that disabling the pagefile does not disable paging, only one form of it. Overall levels paging may well be higher.
     
    LMiller7, May 23, 2016
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  10. shimself Win User
    Thanks for all the pointers.
    42G - well yes, I just like to keep quite a lot of data and I didn't want to fork out for a disk upgrade. It has been OK with Win 7. Oh and because I also (have to have) a small unix dual boot partition which consumes another 15G

    I have moved Windows.old over to the data drive (except those files which produced a complaint) which won me about 6G. At first sight it seems better, thanks for the tip

    Yes G gig not M meg, sorry, really hdds were that small once. Some time ago (1983?) I worked for this outfit making unix boxes, which had a 10M hdd (I mean M this time) which had 8M of unix o/s and therefore a glorious 2M for data, ie 6 floppies worth. It wasn't a success
     
    shimself, May 23, 2016
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  11. Good Morning All! *Smile Not to bump this old thread, but I was hoping to get a straight ahead answer of the question I posted just above on post #51. I really appreciate that.
    *Smile
     
    Jody Thornton, Aug 3, 2016
    #56
  12. BunnyJ New Member
    Personally I wouldn't bother. If you have an SSD it will act just like RAM so there's no speed advantage. And since you have about 7gb of ram you would need much more to make use of disabling the paging.


    HTH
     
    BunnyJ, Aug 3, 2016
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  13. LMiller7 Win User

    4 GB RAM - How will it run on Windows 10?

    The advantages of loading an application as needed mentioned in post #51 are unaffected by the lack of a pagefile. These are basic concepts in the way just about any modern virtual memory system works and cannot be disabled. Mystere described the pagefile very well and how it optimizes the usage of whatever memory you have.

    Note that by virtual memory system I do not mean one that has a pagefile. You can have a fully functional virtual memory system without a pagefile. It just won't operate with optimum efficiency.

    An SSD does not operate anything like RAM. Even the fastest SSDs are much slower than RAM and they work in entirely different ways.
     
    LMiller7, Aug 3, 2016
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  14. Edward Win User
    On my pc I have 16 GB pf RAM but on my Laptop I have 4GB of ram and it works good so you should be good *Smile
     
    Edward, Aug 3, 2016
    #59
  15. Well that was my opinion too, but I didn't want to have blinders on and just assume I'm not affected. I enabled a 1 gb pagefile for awhile, and saw no discernible difference.
     
    Jody Thornton, Aug 3, 2016
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