Windows 10: A good 64 Bit AntiVirus

Hey all,

Apologies if this has been asked here already

64 Bit doesn't seem to be as popular with AV programs as I had hoped. But does anyone know of a good one that is currently mainstream and rated (somewhat) highly?

Thanks.

:)

 

Age Of empires 2 Conquerors edition incompatible with Win10?

2 solutions :

One legal but (too) rarely used :

Keep a good old Windows XP or Windows 7 along with a Windows 10 dual-boot. I did. XP 32 bits is even more compatible with old games than W7-64. For example : 16 bits setup.exe can't run on a 64 bits machine.

One officially not too legal but I considered legal if you have the genuine disks :

Use a Nocd crack. Risky : analyse your PC with a good antivirus and MalwareBytes after a research session.

 

Audio on streaming videos out of synch

A 32 bit on a 64 bit processor = bad performance. a 64 bit on a 64 processor = good performance.

 

AVG, Comodo Panda Avast....

 

ESET, Avast, .....*Smile

 

As far as I know, the only pure 64-bit AV is Windows Defender, all others are just 64-bit compatible.

 

So part of the reason I ask is because I was looking mainly for performance increases. I saw a couple tests that put defender lower in the performance (speed) category.

Though Defender it is likely the most stable, I found Avira and have been trying it out, but wasn't quite sure if I could pull a better AV out of the hat. It is only 32 bit. Does it really make a difference?

So while I would appreciate adequate protection, I mainly need this computer to be quick, as it is my designated 'beast' bot.

I think I still have defender up on my easy laptop with a casual Mbam.

 

In theory 64-bit is supposed to be better, but in reality, 32-bit is usually faster, simple because it is supported and developed more. 64-bit is more complicated to code and talking about security, non-Microsoft developers have hard getting around patchguard, so they just cheat their way around it. *Rolleyes

 

DustSailor: Avira IS a 64-bit AV, like all the others if installed on x64 OS. It really can't be any other way, due to compatibility and security requirements. All the heavy work it's done by 64-bit drivers (real-time protection, hashing etc).

Sure, most of the executables and libraries are not 64-bit. Why? Because most of them don't need to consume gigs of ram, while using all the extra cpu registers in manipulating large integers. You don't port everything to 64-bit just for the sake of it, more so when you have to maintain x86 support. So the gui, updater, scheduler etc part of the AV are perfectly fine (and even slightly faster) on x86.

 

Sorry, guess I saw it in the (x86) programs folder and didn't check the other one and assumed. If it works, it works. It does look like one of the faster ones, with not too many false positives. I think I saw Avast! as rated higher, but didn't want to bother with signing up like last time. If anyone finds a particularly fast AV (in normal, non-scan mode) that is at least as good as defender with malware, let me know!

 

Are you sure the free version is semi-64bit? It is only located in the (x86) folder, and I thought it would be located in both?

 

Code: Filename : avnetflt.sys Valid Digital signature : C=DE, S=Baden-Württemberg, L=Tettnang, O=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG, OU=Digital ID Class 3 - Microsoft Software Validation v2, OU=Global Assembly, CN=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG File Size : 74,440 Bytes Created Date : 16/09/2015 12:58:54 Modified Date : 24/09/2015 15:48:25 Executable Format : Portable Executable Machine : 64-bit Filename : avkmgr.sys Valid Digital signature : C=DE, S=Baden Wuerttemberg, L=Tettnang, O=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG, OU=Digital ID Class 3 - Microsoft Software Validation v2, CN=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG File Size : 28,600 Bytes Created Date : 16/09/2015 12:58:54 Modified Date : 06/08/2015 17:58:22 Executable Format : Portable Executable Machine : 64-bit Filename : avipbb.sys Valid Digital signature : C=DE, S=Baden-Württemberg, L=Tettnang, O=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG, OU=Digital ID Class 3 - Microsoft Software Validation v2, OU=Global Assembly, CN=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG File Size : 148,632 Bytes Created Date : 16/09/2015 12:58:54 Modified Date : 06/08/2015 17:58:22 Executable Format : Portable Executable Machine : 64-bit Filename : avgntflt.sys Valid Digital signature : C=DE, S=Baden-Württemberg, L=Tettnang, O=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG, OU=Digital ID Class 3 - Microsoft Software Validation v2, OU=Global Assembly, CN=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG File Size : 137,800 Bytes Created Date : 16/09/2015 12:58:54 Modified Date : 24/09/2015 15:48:25 Executable Format : Portable Executable Machine : 64-bit Filename : inssda64.exe Valid Digital signature : C=DE, S=Baden-Württemberg, L=Tettnang, O=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG, OU=Digital ID Class 3 - Microsoft Software Validation v2, OU=Global Assembly, CN=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG File Size : 494,656 Bytes Created Date : 16/09/2015 12:58:55 Modified Date : 24/09/2015 15:48:25 Executable Format : Portable Executable Machine : 64-bit Filename : avshadow.exe Valid Digital signature : C=DE, S=Baden-Württemberg, L=Tettnang, O=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG, OU=Digital ID Class 3 - Microsoft Software Validation v2, OU=Global Assembly, CN=Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG File Size : 632,152 Bytes Created Date : 16/09/2015 12:58:54 Modified Date : 24/09/2015 15:48:22 Executable Format : Portable Executable Machine : 64-bit[/quote] Same for the libraries ending in 64.
But really, it does not matter. You just can't have a working AV on x64 OS without these.

 

To be effective in a 64 bit OS an AV product must have at least some 64 bit components. But there is no need and little benefit in having everything 64 bit. 64 bit processes aren't inherently faster than 32 bit and in some cases they will be slower. 64 bit has some major advantages but they will not be significant in all situations. As modern AV products will have multiple processes there is no reason why they can't have both. If there is an existing 32 bit component that operates well in a 64 bit OS there is no reason why it must be updated to 64 bit. And be aware that a 64 bit component that performs the same function will tend to consume more memory and disk space than a 32 bit version.

An AV application may be installed in the (x86) folder but there is no reason (technical or otherwise) why it cannot contain 64 bit components as well.

Edit: In a 64 bit OS 32 bit applications must run in an artificial 32 bit environment. The native 64 bit environment is an alien one in which a 32 bit process cannot run. Most applications run just fine in such an environment. But AV products are quite different. The application must be able to see things as they really are, not the 32 but environment created for them. Only a 32 bit process can do that. Modern AV products must also have kernel drivers and 32 bit drivers cannot run in a 64 bit OS.

 

Webroot, very small footprint. To be honest, I cant remember the last time I saw a virus other than cryptolocker and variants of. I see much malware and adware and junk. I turn it off constantly, don't need it. However, user smarts are the best security, I still have folks open attachments from emails of dubious origin.

I am a enterprise network admin and most users are idiots when it comes to security, even after you school them, gotta lock them down cause they are their worst enemies.

 

Yep!