Windows 10: ADK 10: Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer

Discus and support ADK 10: Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; The answer is Yes - the Compact option does use less disk space, although it isn't a vast saving. Presumably the saving is made by from the apps... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by DavidY, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. DavidY Win User

    ADK 10: Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer


    The answer is Yes - the Compact option does use less disk space, although it isn't a vast saving.

    Presumably the saving is made by from the apps and drivers that are in the ppkg, so I guess I could also have looked in Program Files and found that is where the space is saved. (Although do I really want drivers to be run off a ppkg file...? Hmm!)

    As I don't have many apps on there, the saving isn't great. But if I had a lot of apps (and I'm really testing this so I can setup a tablet which has a licence for Office 2013) then it may be more worthwhile.

    Space Usage after using ICD 'Production Media' option with 'Compact' set to Yes:


    ADK 10: Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer [​IMG]


    Space Usage after using ICD 'Clean Install' option - which doesn't have 'Compact' as a possibility:

    ADK 10: Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer [​IMG]


    I also note that the 'Clean' install version puts a second .ppkg file in C:\Recovery\Customizations, called ICD_Customizations.ppkg.

    I assume this second ppkg is the settings I changed within the ICD (Computer Manufacturer etc.) but it's interesting that they aren't created in the Production Media option which only leaves the big ppkg with Firefox/Drivers etc., so I guess Reset might behave differently in the two installations.


    ADK 10: Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer [​IMG]
     
    DavidY, Jul 29, 2015
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  2. Mansome Win User

    Nevermind I figured it out...
     
    Mansome, Aug 1, 2015
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  3. Mansome Win User
    So I have gotten the production media to work, however I dont see the difference at all with the compact OS option It still takes up about 16gbs for all my stuff. I know with wimboot on 8.1 I got it down to almost 8gb. Maybe I am missing something here?
     
    Mansome, Aug 1, 2015
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  4. Kyhi Win User

    ADK 10: Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer

    windows 8.1 used the recovery partition to store the image - thus your windows partition was smaller.

    compare freespace

    3GB is a 10% saving of freespace on a 32GB drive

    Wimboot was only supported on drive 32GB drive or less - almost would bet Compact is too

    Need min 16GB for compact using x86 and 20GB for compact using x64
     
  5. DavidY Win User
    Apparently the way to check if compaction is switched on for the OS as a while is this command, used at an elevated command prompt:
    Code: compact /compactos:query[/quote]
     
    DavidY, Aug 2, 2015
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  6. Mansome Win User
    If you go to disk management and look at your drive and you choose the compact option its going to say Wimboot on that drive. Thats how I know its enabled. It doesnt look like much space saving compared to the original wimboot due to the recovery stuff being on the drive too. Either way I think its going to be worth it for me if I am on a solid state. Windows updates as well as office bloats up the machine pretty quickly.
     
    Mansome, Aug 2, 2015
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  7. DavidY Win User
    I've not been on the Forum a lot lately, but just a quick note that the ADK has been updated to go with version '1511' of Windows 10. I've not had a chance to play with it yet though.

    The download link is the same as before.
     
    DavidY, Dec 4, 2015
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  8. Mansome Win User

    ADK 10: Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer

    Hi all,

    I got a few questions for those who have got this working. I am trying to create the custom config.xml file that will allow me to migrate only certain apps. However when I try to do this I do not see the names of any of the apps I have installed inside the file. Whats the trick to this?
     
    Mansome, Feb 6, 2016
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  9. DavidY Win User
    Are you using something like the steps mentioned here:?
    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/beanexpert/a...tate-tool.aspx

    I did once try this (not looked into it much recently) but the problem seemed to be that the standard 'migapp.xml' file only has a limited selection, including some really old versions of applications. For instance in the blog post they talk about Adobe Reader 9 being detected, but I reckon most people are up to at least Adobe Reader 11 by now.

    I think the method would be somehow to get a better migapp.xml, but I've no idea how you'd do this.

    That's assuming I'm thinking of the same problem as you though!
     
    DavidY, Feb 7, 2016
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  10. Mansome Win User
    Yes that is exactly that. I have gone in and double and triple checked my files and I don't see anything like what I am supposed to have. This makes it really hard to not migrate everything if I only want certain apps. The other big issue I have with this is that any provisioning packages I made with scanstate are not usable unless its imported into the WICD tool. I remember all this talk about using the packages right when Windows was installed, you are supposed to hit the Windows key 5 times or double click the package its supposed to do whatever provisioning is there. However it always fails and says its corrupted. Now if I create a package that is only using the WICD tool with no 3rd party apps but only settings it lets me install these just fine.
     
    Mansome, Feb 7, 2016
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  11. DavidY Win User
    I'm afraid I don't know the answer then - it must be possible to edit the migapp.xml but I don't know how you find out what to put into it.
    My guess is that there are some provisioning packages (like changing a setting, and probably installing a Universal App) which can be installed at runtime, but I think the 'Desktop' apps can only be installed at install-time. I don't know any of this for sure though.

    I did read somewhere that to apply within Windows, the ppkg file has to be in the root directory of the USB or whatever you're using to install it. I don't know if that makes a difference?

    I think you can also use DISM to apply a provisioning package to an offline image.
     
    DavidY, Feb 7, 2016
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  12. xbliss Win User
    The online website Answer file generator has lot of bugs for latest 1511 release.. Wish there was a simpler template we could just generate without heavy MS tools.

    PS: I need to deploy some Native Boot VHDs with Unattend answer file.. where should I keep/ insert the file in/ outside of VHD?
     
    xbliss, Jul 25, 2016
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  13. DavidY Win User

    ADK 10: Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer

    I get the impression the next version of the ADK, to go with the 1607 release, may have some improvements - maybe the ICD will get better?
    I think the ICD is the tool they're most likely to improve.
    I don't know to be honest; it might be worth asking over on the Hyper-V Native Boot tutorial.
     
    DavidY, Jul 26, 2016
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  14. DavidY Win User
    New version 1607 ADK is now available for download, at the link which previously pointed to 1511.
    From here:

    and, the 1511 version is still available:
    Not tried it yet though.
     
    DavidY, Apr 4, 2018
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