Windows 10: After Upgrading to windows 10

Discus and support After Upgrading to windows 10 in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; I just did a clean install on a different clean hard drive using the ISO and the key on all my 4 systems have the same key after the upgrade. I just... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by VsUK1981, Jul 29, 2015.

  1. 51sandman Win User

    After Upgrading to windows 10


    I just did a clean install on a different clean hard drive using the ISO and the key on all my 4 systems have the same key after the upgrade. I just did another customers Dell i5 Laptop and has a different key .
     
    51sandman, Aug 2, 2015
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  2. VsUK1981 Win User

    I believe OEM & Home versions of windows 7/8 have the same key & Pro & ultimate of windows 7 & equiv of windows 8 have another key. I think this is to differentiate between the versions the upgrade gives otherwise a home OEM could end up with the features of someone who had Ultimate! "I THINK"!
     
    VsUK1981, Aug 2, 2015
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  3. Megahertz Win User
    Yesterday I cloned my HDD to an old HDD and then, from inside Win7, I did the upgrade. When it finished it was activated. I then disabled the LAN on BIOS and when booted Windows claimed for activation. Enabled LAN on BIOS and Windows was again activated.
    For those who think that Win10 is free, please think again. M$ is a private company and is on the market to make money. M$ saw other companies (Google, Facebook etc.) making money tracking users clicks and decided to do the same. The reason they don’t allow to use Win7 and Win8 key to do a fresh install is that they want you to install Win10 right away. And they are pushing hard you to do so.
    For those who have already installed Win10, go to the private settings tab and have a look on what is allowed to Win10 to track by default. Camera, microphone, location, what you type, and the sites you visit. Everything you do is tracked. Even your mail contacts they can share (sell) with others.
    If you disable these defaults, most things won’t work anymore (like Cortana and applications).
    As the best software is the one you know how to use, I’ve already decided I’ll continue to use my Win7. Haven’t seen nothing on Win10 that worth the upgrade.
     
    Megahertz, Aug 3, 2015
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  4. 51sandman Win User

    After Upgrading to windows 10

    I now have a Windows 10 Home 64 bit key and I am going to see if I can do a clean install on a formatted drive.
     
    51sandman, Aug 3, 2015
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  5. I have 7 Ultimate dual booting with 8.1 on my machines and the excuse for an OS 10 was on my machine for less than a day before I returned to the 8.1 image I had taken. It spies on you is not reliable and is full of adverts. I am sticking with 7 & 8.1 like most people will decide to do. I cannot see any business users agreeing to being spied on. 7 is by far and away the best OS. 8.1 frankly will do in a push but 10 no way.
     
    Indianatone, Aug 3, 2015
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  6. Grislord Win User
    Weren't there a notion about dual boots, and win 10 takes it away for being the 'one kernel to rule them all'?
     
    Grislord, Aug 3, 2015
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  7. Upgrade finds the lkey for the qualifying OS and hashes it with hardware ID(s) and creates a new authentication value, encrypts it , then stores that value in firmware.

    A subsequent clean install find the stored authentication value and uses that to activate.

    It is best to skip this step or do this later if asked for a key and Windows will automatically activate.

    The only time you would enter a key, and I'm not sure there are such things any longer, would be if you purchased a Retail version or if you do not have Internet access (phone activation required).
    The upgrade applies to the license. Nothing is taken away, you're given rights to use Win10 if you accept the EULA terms.

    You can remove Win10 and install Win7 with the original Win7 terms. Both EULAs say that you can only run one install at a time. A Retail license says you can transfer the OS to another machine IF ... if you remove the OS from the first machine.

    It's OR not AND

    Not a whole lot has really changed in that area of licensing.

    Not on kernel to rule them all, not yet anyway *Wink
     
    Slartybart, Aug 3, 2015
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  8. CountMike New Member

    After Upgrading to windows 10

    Windows 10 is a free UPGRADE, not a free OS and keeps same rights as Windows you upgraded from. If anybody wants a no strings attached full W10 version will have to shell out $$$ for a Retail version of his choice. Only other option is to join/ stay with Insider Program but that entails agreement to receive and test new updates/upgrades/features before they are released to public.
    So, those are conditions and anything else is just somebody's interpretation maybe due to MS not coming out clean in the beginning and maybe even too legal like language in Eula.
     
    CountMike, Aug 3, 2015
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  9. figment Win User
    I used the media creation tool to do both my upgrade and clean installs:

    Windows 10

    Choose "create media to install on another computer" , also boot from the media you create and choose "custom" install...skip the product key entry that pops up several times...It should activate once installed and connected.
     
    figment, Aug 3, 2015
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  10. Omega Win User
    Sign in to your Microsoft account

    If you see both your computers on here, Microsoft knows it's you as soon as you log in with an Internet connection. It automatically distinguishes your PCs by your motherboard's id.
     
    Omega, Aug 3, 2015
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  11. 51sandman Win User
    Good article ( Extreme Tech web site) for those who think Windows 10 Pro or Home is not as secure as promised well look around and shut the things off that are sending info to Microsoft like I have done on my Desktop I just install 10 pro on and it using the same key as my other 2 Laptops. I am looking for a new Media center to watch TV with Windows 10 any suggestion or any one got something running on there system.
     
    51sandman, Apr 4, 2018
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