Windows 10: Any way to STARTUP/boot Windows 10 with ONLY GENERIC drivers?

Discus and support Any way to STARTUP/boot Windows 10 with ONLY GENERIC drivers? in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; many have run into Windows 10 "upgrades" that install bad device drivers that cause system to hang on reboot/boot. Is there a way, perhaps command... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by cognus, Apr 26, 2016.

  1. cognus Win User

    Any way to STARTUP/boot Windows 10 with ONLY GENERIC drivers?


    many have run into Windows 10 "upgrades" that install bad device drivers that cause system to hang on reboot/boot.

    Is there a way, perhaps command line, to attempt to boot the system with 'basic drivers' only, in order to step around the IED..... ???

    :)
     
    cognus, Apr 26, 2016
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  2. Every time my wife starts her computer she is prompted to select "Windows 10" or "Previous Operating System.

    Windows 10 is the only option on the Boot tab and set as default is grayed out.

    Under the General tab it is set as selective startup. Should that be normal startup?
     
    Wayne04(2), Apr 26, 2016
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  3. MSConfig in Win10 breaks startup recovery (Safe mode etc)

    After running MSConfig on Windows 10 (any version including the latest anniversary update) and making any changes to startup services, booting into recovery options no longer allows me to get to the 'Startup' menu (The menu with the Safe mode options where
    you choose a number). It boots straight past it back into normal Windows startup. It no longer boots to the startup selection screen after choosing to startup with that screen in the recovery options.

    The only way to get into safe mode is by using MSConfig and the only way to get back to normal startup is also with MSConfig.

    This occurred before the anniversary update but after doing an in-place-upgrade with the anniversary update I was then able to enter recovery and select Startup options under troubleshooting and it did indeed boot into the startup selection screen. However.
    Upon running MSConfig, making a few changes like disabling a service or app and applying it I was then unable to get that menu ever again.

    Can anyone confirm that making changes in MSConfig in Windows 10 causes the loss of the startup screen once selected and rebooted from the recovery options?
     
    **** Van Dyke, Apr 26, 2016
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  4. cognus Win User

    Any way to STARTUP/boot Windows 10 with ONLY GENERIC drivers?

    this is a crazy idea, but think of it: since windows 7 is on the hard drive, but set aside, is there a way to un-quarantine windows 7, quarantine Windows 10, nuke the MBR, build a new Windows 7 MBR, all from command line?
     
    cognus, Apr 26, 2016
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  5. Fafhrd Win User
    It's the "basic drivers" that are the problem - even the WINPE for Windows 10 setup cannot cut it for some combinations of hardware, and fails at 23%, 32% or some other short figure. That is why the upgrade from 7 may work, but a subsequent clean install fails. If you compare Win10PE and Win8.1PE, the Win 10 uses a lot more resources, even though the full OSs Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 use a very similar amount.

    Heaven knows what you mean by quarantine and nuke the MBR!
     
    Fafhrd, Apr 26, 2016
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  6. cognus Win User
    understandably!
    in the case of an upgrade, in this case from a well-running windows 7 to a defective windows 10, the entire Windows directory is intact on the drive, just marked so it is not accessed. I had just been wondering if, via command line interface, one could reverse the relationship, but I can see all sorts of issues; where's the old registry? [there was a restore point, but you must have windows up and running to access the restore point], the UEFI drive arrangement would need to be nixed, windows 7 boot record restored, etc etc.

    clean install the only real answer
     
    cognus, Apr 27, 2016
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  7. Fafhrd Win User
    After ab upgrade, apart from the basic Windows.old folder, there is a WindowsOld.Wim file in $WINDOWS>~BT\Sources

    It may be mounted as a virtual drive or unarchived with a program such as 7-zip File manager, and the registry hives will be in the usual place under the Windows folder structure.

    I'm pretty sure that when a volume is captured to a Wim image, old restore points are discarded.
     
    Fafhrd, Apr 27, 2016
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  8. cognus Win User

    Any way to STARTUP/boot Windows 10 with ONLY GENERIC drivers?

    appreciate the tip
    did some searching on that approach and as you would expect, not much, if any, success.
    clean install coming...

    since these things do not happen in a controlled corporate environment, MS likely does not track stats much on the cost of such snafus. in this case, an 'innocent' victim of MS relentless upgrade-push will end up shelling out about $400 in technician fees, and about 2 weeks of lost workstation productivity, all to try to rebuild what was a well-running Windows 7 system before "upgrade now".

     
    cognus, Apr 4, 2018
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