Windows 10: Backup @ Recovery question

Discus and support Backup @ Recovery question in Windows 10 Backup and Restore to solve the problem; I just upgraded W7 to W10 on my old laptop. Now I want to create a backup in case my HDD fails. 1. Create Recovery Drive (windows utility) using... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Backup and Restore' started by boyboyds, Nov 29, 2015.

  1. boyboyds Win User

    Backup @ Recovery question

    I just upgraded W7 to W10 on my old laptop.
    Now I want to create a backup in case my HDD fails.

    1. Create Recovery Drive (windows utility) using USB drive.
    2. Run Backup and Restore (windows utility) using external HDD.

    One think I noticed it says "Backup and Restore (Windows 7)".


    1. Will recovery drive load W7 or W10, does it matter.....?
    2. The same question about Backup and Restore.


    boyboyds, Nov 29, 2015

  2. Windows backup/recovery question

    1. Is Win10 64-bit or 32-bit installed on Computer A now?

    2. Did Computer A come with Win10 64-bit or 32-bit preinstalled?

    3. Did Computer B come with Win7 64-bit or 32-bit preinstalled?

    4. Is Computer A currently fully-patched at Windows Update as far as you know?

    5. What Build is installed on Computer A? See

    Backup @ Recovery question [​IMG]

    6a. On Computer A => What is the full name of your currently-installed
    third-party anti-virus application or security suite - i.e., not
    Windows Defender! - (if any), and when (approx. date) does your current subscription
    (if any) expire?

    6b. What third-party anti-malware applications (i.e., not Windows Defender!) are installed, if any? What third-party firewall, if any?

    7. Is Adobe Flash Player v22.0.0.192 installed? TEST HERE USING INTERNET EXPLORER OR EDGE
    ONLY! =>


    COMMENT: I think you're very lucky to have Win10 up & running on Computer A. Maybe you shouldn't tempt fate any father by trying to use the Computer B backup on the external drive (?) for incremental backups on Computer A?
    PA Bear - MS MVP, Nov 29, 2015
  3. Windows backup/recovery question

    1a. Did you format the HDD from Computer B (i.e., the HP computer) before you did the clean install of Win10 on 03 Jul-16 on Computer A (Toshiba)?

    1b. How did you determined that the HDD from Computer B (HP) was compatible with Computer A (Toshiba)?

    2. What product key did you use to Activate the clean install of Win10 on Computer A (Toshiba)?

    3. Did Computer B (HP) also come with Win10 preinstalled or...?

    4. When (exact date, preferably) was the Computer B backup created/last revised?

    5. Did you run the Norton Removal Tool or the McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool on Computer B by the time you created the very first backup?
    PA Bear - MS MVP, Nov 29, 2015
  4. djriful Win User

    Backup @ Recovery question

    Recommend to use Macrium Reflect, I wouldn't use the Windows one...
    djriful, Nov 29, 2015
  5. essenbe Win User
    essenbe, Nov 29, 2015
  6. boyboyds Win User

    I like Macrium and used it in the past, but then I need to buy another 2.5 HDD (I have a laptop).
    But I have several old 3.5 HDDs at home.
    This is why I was trying to use Recovery USB + Imaging HDD rather than Cloning.

    boyboyds, Nov 29, 2015
  7. Molyy Win User
    If you created the image files or recovery USB after upgrading to Win 10, it should be the image for Win 10. But couldn't understand why it says "backup and restore Win 7". Actually, you can use Macrium reflect or free Easeus todo backup to do the same thing, creating a recovery USB and imaging the hard drives.
    Molyy, Nov 29, 2015
  8. NavyLCDR New Member

    Backup @ Recovery question

    Why would you have to buy another 2.5 HDD? Save the backup image to whatever source you want to. Create a Macrium Reflect Rescue USB (you only need a 4 GB USB or 1 DVD). There are also ways to add it to the same external USB hard drive to boot from it too, but that's a bit complicated. To restore from a failed hard drive you boot from the Rescue USB/DVD and then restore the image from wherever you stored it to onto the new HDD or SSD.

    Personally, I've got one USB flash drive that has the install files for Windows 10 Home, Pro, 32-bit and 64-bit, Macrium Relflect Free rescue and MiniTool Partition Wizard Free - all on one multi-boot USB flash drive. My actual backup images are stored on USB external hard drives.
    NavyLCDR, Nov 29, 2015
  9. DavidE Win User
    I use Macrium free and i can create the Rescue Media on a CD.
    The Rescue Media i create does work for me.

    I'm curious why you need a 4GB USB or DVD for Macrium Rescue Media, and i don't.
    I don't store the Backup Image on the rescue media, but mine would never fit in 4GB space.
    My Backup Images are 10-30 GB.
    DavidE, Nov 29, 2015
  10. NavyLCDR New Member
    I meant that you only need a 4 GB USB for the rescue disc, not the backup image. And yes, rescue will fit on a CD.
    NavyLCDR, Nov 29, 2015
  11. essenbe Win User
    I believe the Macrium Recovery WinPE is 512MB.
    essenbe, Nov 29, 2015
  12. boyboyds Win User
    In the past I used Macrium for cloning, and then when my HDD failed I just replaced it with the cloned one.
    And it has worked so far. But now I am dealing with a laptop and I do not have a spare 2.5 HDD.

    But I think you are saying that I can use Macrium to create a Recovery DVD/USB + Image backup as well.
    If so, then I agree, I do not need to buy another 2.5 HDD, I can use my old 3.5 HDDs for Imaging.

    I will try both methods, Windows utility and Macrium, I have plenty of blank DVDs and used 3.5 HDDs.

    Thank you all for your explanation.
    boyboyds, Nov 29, 2015
  13. topgundcp Win User

    Backup @ Recovery question

    @essenbe (Steve)
    Actually the Rescue disk is only about 255MB. In my other post I created a 512MB partition just to give some spare space but you could even create a 256MB partition and it would fit.

    If you have an external 3.5 inch drive. You could put the content of the rescue disk and boot from there, you don't even need a USB/DVD.
    Here's the link on how to create a bootable Rescue on an external HD:
    Solved FYI: Setup Macrium Rescue to boot from an Internal/External USB HD/SSD - Windows 10 Forums
    This way, you can boot from the HD and also save your backup image on the same drive.

    Here's an example of my 120GB external HD. I can boot from it and save the image on Drive J:

    Backup @ Recovery question [​IMG]
    topgundcp, Nov 29, 2015
  14. boyboyds Win User
    Thanks, dual recover/image is a very good solution, but it is easier for me to create them separately, I am more familiar with the process. But in the future I would like to learn how to do it correctly.

    boyboyds, Nov 29, 2015
  15. fdegrove Win User

    From topgundcp's thread:

    That's how I do it and on a relatively fast 64Gb USB 3.0 drive. USB transfer speed is actually better than what HDDs can handle.
    If you need lots of real estate for several devices then sure, a HDD or faster SDD connected to a USB 3.0 port will do fine too.

    Either way, there are several ways to skin the proverbial cat.

    Cheers, *Wink
    fdegrove, Nov 30, 2015

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