Windows 10: Bad news for insiders they will have to give up a key for the RTM.

Hi there

What *Could* happen -- I'm not saying it will but it could happen -- is that say you restore your old W7 image and you want to apply updates -- the Ms licensing server could easily say --"This product has exceeded the allowable nr of activations" or similar.

If this were to happen - simply use the PHONE activation and explain you needed to revert back to W7 for a while as something on W10 didn't work.

You won't get any problems - Ms are actually quite reasonable in this sort of stuff.

This won't affect the W10 installation should you wish to use it later.

Always take backup images though before applying UPGRADES (or Downgrades).

Cheers
jimbo

 

If you upgrade Windows 7 or 8xx you will have to give up your key. If you keep using the TP , it will upgrade to the RTM and later builds. There is no key to give up.

 

Your 7 or 8.x key will be good for either 10 or your previous OS. If you become dissatisfied with 10 you can revert back.

BTW, there is no "free" upgrade to insiders without a valid 7 or 8.x OS. People tend to believe what they want to and that has taken on a life of its own.

 

If the pirates think they can get a free Win10 upgrade from their pirated Windows 7 machines, they are in for a rude awakining when the OS updates, removes the bootloader, then tells them to buy Windows.

The boot loader is making Windows 7 seem genuine. But Win8/10 patched that, so it will update to a non-genuine Win10

 

Hi there

I don't think this is a specific Anti-Piracy thing -- in any case I'll bet a BILLION dollars to 50 Litres of best quality Horse S--TE that Pirates will be out there within 10 minutes of W10 RTM.

Most people will just upgrade without problems or simply keep running W7 / W8.1 until they either have to upgrade or just give up using computers at all.

A few might continue running old OS'es on a VM (like me --I'm still running DAILY and using it quite a lot for serious money making stuff -- Windows XP !!! which I have as an isolated VM. I make VINYL records for people --either copying olds VINYLS or creating custom made ones from their music tracks etc.

I think this whole thing about "Losing" or "Giving up" keys is a total NON ISSUE.

Cheers
jimbo

 

I wish someone would explain to me how I am misinterpreting this quote.

To me that sure seems like giving up a license or key. I would love to be wrong but I don't think I am.

 

I don't see how you could get that interpretation in the first place. It does not say "You will need to surrender a valid Windows 7/8.x key". Hell, it doesn't even say "key". It says "license". It just says you need a valid *license*. Where in that quote can you possibly infer anything else?

 

No, they have not said that, not even close. They've said you will need a valid license, and that your license will be upgraded. They have not even said if they are going to issue new keys. I personally think you will install your Windows 10 using your 7 or 8.x key, and no new key will be issued (though this is just a guess).

 

After reading the twitter conversation it is even more confusing. I am glad I am not the only one that sees it that way.

Gabriel Aul on Twitter:

 

The way I see it, they are talking about two different scenarios, First one is for insiders: " Naturally, Microsoft couldn't leave its most devoted "Windows Insiders" hanging, as Microsoft's Gabe Aul has confirmed that those participating and running a technical preview of Windows 10 will be able to upgrade to Windows 10 RTM for free."
To update from W7 and 8.1 for free, you don't have to be insider anyway. Even non insiders will be able to. Why assume that all insiders did or had to have any valid previous windows ? If one is insider why could not some come from Mac or Linux and wanted to try W 10. It was never a requirement to have valid windows to become insider. As the matter of fact you didn't even have to be insider or log in with MS to use W10.
This is just my logic speaking, what will happen we'll see July 29th and if MS will come up and say : "Thank you for being an insider, for testing and commenting on our new OS, helping us make it great and we are giving you this gift of free license for W10 and live happily ever after".
Eventually fat lady will have to sing on this issue. It ain't over, til it's over, etc.

 

It says, you will need a valid Windows 7/8.x license. No where does it say you give it up? *Banghead

 

It would also be nice if insider program is kept alive longer, I would do it in a flash and keep testing whatever new comes along.

 

I think it all boils down to did you clean install the preview or do an upgrade. Those that did a clean install "will need a valid Windows 7/8.x license" to get a fully activated RTM. Those that did an upgrade from Windows 7 or 8.1 will not as the original key for those OS will be stored in the registry. If I run showkey on my Windows 10 desktop it shows the original Windows 7 key and the current Windows 10 key that's in use.

 

I could swear I read that it will continue? Have a look at this, http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-...ond-windows-10

 

alphanumeric,
Your point is right on the money, the proof has to be there you are holding valid windows 7 or 8 key, to enter the world of wins 10, otherwise bootleggers will have a field day.