Windows 10: Bad news for insiders they will have to give up a key for the RTM.

Discus and support Bad news for insiders they will have to give up a key for the RTM. in Windows 10 News to solve the problem; It would also be nice if insider program is kept alive longer, I would do it in a flash and keep testing whatever new comes along. This all in the... Discussion in 'Windows 10 News' started by groze, Jun 15, 2015.

  1. ramram55 Win User

    Bad news for insiders they will have to give up a key for the RTM.


    This all in the name to weed out bootleggers. You have a valid keys you can use the windows 10 for free. Otherwise keep out.
     
    ramram55, Jun 15, 2015
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  2. groze Win User

    @alphanumeric

    Once you upgrade windows version to another windows version it consumes that key. That what I meant by giving up.
     
    groze, Jun 15, 2015
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  3. Mystere Win User
    Once again, it doesn't say "key", it says "license". And what they mean by "consume" is that you cannot take that you cannot (legally) take that Windows 7 or 8.x disk and install it on another computer at the same time you are running Windows 10 that was upgraded from that license.

    You are still free to go back to Windows 7/8.x if you delete your Windows 10 installation. In other words, the new license is tied to the old license. That doesn't mean the old license is invalid, just that it's either 7/8.x or 10, but not both.
     
    Mystere, Jun 15, 2015
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  4. CountMike New Member

    Bad news for insiders they will have to give up a key for the RTM.

    I doubt anything would stop bootleggers, even hard keys got broken.
     
    CountMike, Jun 15, 2015
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  5. ramram55 Win User
    No better mouse trap yet ?
     
    ramram55, Jun 15, 2015
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  6. Gary Win User
    Bad news for insiders they will have to give up a key for the RTM. [​IMG]


    Did you not read Gabe Aul's Tweet?
     
  7. Mystere Win User
    Unfortunately, Gabe tends to be a bit terse. What he means is "Yes, you can upgrade to Windows 10 from the Insiders Preview for free, using your valid Windows 7/8.x key".
     
    Mystere, Jun 15, 2015
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  8. groze Win User

    Bad news for insiders they will have to give up a key for the RTM.

    I already know that. That not what I am saying.

    For example I can't keep this set up after the RTM is released even if I remain an insider. I don't have access to another windows 7 installation media.

    Windows 7 Primary Partition 1 Oem clean install
    Windows 10 Primary Partition 2 pro preview

    So, I have to chose one or the other not both. I chose 7 unless they come up with a deal for the insiders.
     
    groze, Jun 15, 2015
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  9. That tweet was already addressed on another thread.
     
    cyberrufus, Jun 15, 2015
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  10. dencal Win User
    A post made by myself a couple of days ago in thread "3 security updates" is perhaps relevant to this thread. I reprint.

    "I suppose after faultless updates on all W10 previews from the beginning it was inevitable that something unforeseen would occur.
    This latest update caused havoc, reason being "locked drive" which changed NTFS to RAW on "E" Drive.
    I must explain, my setup consists of two SSD,s .."C" Drive W8.1 Pro and "E" Drive W10.

    Not only was "E" drive affected, "C" drive needed a scannow and a dism to correct a corrupted W8.1.

    All attempts to open W10 using all the Advanced methods failed, including Safe mode Admin, due to locked drive.
    Finally solved the problem by disconnecting "D" Drive, had to fix corrupted drive "C" then reconnecting "D" drive which then proceeded to "scanning and repairing drive" which appears to have solved the problem."

    The point I am trying to make is up until the above quoted updates both drives were connected separately in the computer and choosing which one I wanted to work with was made either by clicking F8 or changing the boot order in the bios.

    Now this is no longer possible I believe, only one Microsoft O/S can use the same key at one time even though they are entirely separate systems.

    I get round this problem by disconnecting one or the other drive.
     
    dencal, Jun 15, 2015
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  11. That's your interpretation, not mine.
     
    alphanumeric, Jun 15, 2015
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  12. groze Win User
    I don't know whom is not understanding whom.

    Microsoft use to have upgrade disk. Windows 98se to WindowsME.

    When you used the WindowsME upgrade disk, you had to show the path to win98se cab files or insert your windows 98se disk to upgrade. Once upgrade to WindowsME you were not suppose to use the same Windows 98se on another partition because that would violate the EULA. I think that what they are doing with windows 10. Of course, you can remove 10 and go back to 8.1 or 7. Just like you could remove windowsME and go back to windows 98se without violating the eula.
     
    groze, Jun 15, 2015
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  13. Fragment Win User

    Bad news for insiders they will have to give up a key for the RTM.

    and how is this "giving up a key or a license"?

    the only thing it is ...is "giving up a windows installation"

    but even that is not correct... because basically you have one installation before the upgrade and one installation after.
    in the standard case...
     
    Fragment, Jun 15, 2015
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  14. groze Win User
    How is my example not correct? In fact I have been told by a MVP and MSFT way in the past from the old Microsoft newsgroups refeing to windowsME upgrade..

    Once you upgrade windows 98se install to windowsME using a windowsME upgrade disk, you lose the right to use that Windows 98se install unless you remove the WindowsME upgrade install.

    On the Windows 10 issue
    Once you upgrade windows 7 install to window 10, you lose the right to use that Windows 7 install unless you remove the Windows10 upgrade install.
     
    groze, Jun 15, 2015
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  15. rvbfan Win User
    I think this is where people are getting confused. MS is giving a free Windows 10 upgrade licence. Not a full install licence.
     
    rvbfan, Jun 15, 2015
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