Windows 10: BSOD - Virtually new system

Discus and support BSOD - Virtually new system in Windows 10 BSOD Crashes and Debugging to solve the problem; I have been getting BSOD on my system for over a year. I basically shelved it, using my laptop instead, as I slowly replaced every piece of hardware. I... Discussion in 'Windows 10 BSOD Crashes and Debugging' started by Esperanto, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. Esperanto Win User

    BSOD - Virtually new system


    I have been getting BSOD on my system for over a year. I basically shelved it, using my laptop instead, as I slowly replaced every piece of hardware.
    I have replaced the ram, rma'd two motherboards, replaced the psu, gpu, and m.2 ssd.
    It is now virtually a brand new system, yet I am still getting BSOD.

    Namely:
    (1) CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED
    (2) IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    (3) PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
    (4) SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION
    (5) KERNEL_AUTO_BOOST_INVALID_LOCK_RELEASE

    With my limited knowledge and research it appears to be a driver issue, but I am unable to isolate which driver.

    I have:
    Run memtest86 on both sticks of ram individually with no errors.
    Reinstalled windows 10 numerous times, trying it without using windows update, and with windows update.
    Run driver verifier.
    Used driver view to check on all non-MS drivers, all are 2019 or newer, with the exception of amdgpio3, which is 2016 and I can't find newer.

    The only drivers I have manually installed are AMD chipset drivers and nvidia drivers, sourced from nvidia, amd or msi directly.

    I've been running furmark and prime95 simultaneously and monitoring temperatures. No crashes as yet, further leading me to believe it's drivers and not hardware?


    BSOD - Virtually new system [​IMG]


    Windows version 1909
    More system details:
    http://speccy.piriform.com/results/N...tANfYuzTbfLpFY

    :)
     
    Esperanto, Apr 19, 2020
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  2. Nikhar_K Win User

    BSOD when launching Virtual Machine

    Hi,



    Thank you for writing to Microsoft Community Forums.



    I appreciate your effort on this. I understand how difficult it could be when the computer doesn’t work as it is supposed to, we will look into this for you. Please reply with the following details to assist you with the appropriate troubleshooting
    steps:



    • Which application are you using to create Virtual Machine?
    • Does the issue occur only when launching a Virtual Machine?
    • Have you reinstalled Windows on the computer?
    • What is the make and model of the computer?


    I have analyzed the dump files shared by you. Since the issue occurs when you launch Virtual Machine, I suggest you to try disabling the VMWare USB Arbitration Service and check if that helps. Please follow the steps mentioned below:



    1. Press Windows key + R, to open
      Run
      dialog box.
    2. Type services.msc and click on
      OK
      .
    3. Look for the VMWare USB Arbitration Service and double click on it to open
      Properties.
    4. Select Disabled from the drop down for
      Startup and Stop the service.
    5. Click on Apply and OK.


    Please reply with the status of the issue, we will be glad to help you further.



    Regards,

    Nikhar Khare

    Microsoft Community - Moderator
     
    Nikhar_K, Apr 19, 2020
    #2
  3. DPM95 Win User
    Is the a virtual QWERTY keyboard on the new KINs?

    Is there a virtual QWERTY keyboard on the new KINs?

     
    DPM95, Apr 19, 2020
    #3
  4. Kari Win User

    BSOD - Virtually new system

    Clean install of W10 not possible in Virtual Machine.


    Please get a cup of coffee, lean back and think an answer for these two questions. Take your time, then check the answers below the questions:

    Questions:
    1. If you do a clean install of let's say Windows 10 Insider Build 10525 on a totally new computer which has never had an activated Windows 10 on it, does it activate?
    2. If you do a clean install of Windows 10 Insider Build on a computer where the underlying Windows 10, upgraded from a qualifying old operating system has already been activated, does it activate?

    Answers:
    1. No, of course not.
    2. Yes, of course.

    Why do you think that a virtual machine would make any difference? You have tried to install Windows 10 on a totally new machine which has never had an activated Windows 10 installed, therefore the Microsoft activation servers block the activation due invalid machine ID. In the highlighted part in below quote you admit your mistake yourself, plain and simple, yet you when doing this wrong draw conclusion that even if done correctly it would not work:

    What you have tried is essentially the same as if you took a brand new real physical PC without any operating system, which has never had any operating system, and then installed Windows 10 Insider Preview wondering why it does not activate! Virtual Machines behave exactly the same way; if you want to clean install Windows 10 Insider Preview and get it activated you must do it on an existing virtual machine, one which has already had an upgraded Windows 10 activated. This "computer", the virtual machine, its machine ID is marked on activation servers as valid and activated and it will of course activate.

    Be it a virtual machine or a physical computer, you cannot activate a clean installed Windows 10 Insider Preview on a totally new machine. How difficult can this be to understand?

    When clean installing Windows 10 Insider Preview on a computer which has already had a previous Windows 10 Insider activated, you do not use the product key! It will be asked twice, once before the installation starts and once after the last reboot to OOBE phase. In both cases you skip the product key and your Windows will be automatically activated.
     
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