Windows 10: Buy W10 then install on non-genuine W7

Discus and support Buy W10 then install on non-genuine W7 in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; My computer runs a non-genuine version of Windows 7 Pro. If I buy a legit new windows 10 Pro Retail disk can I upgrade from my non-genuine W7, or do I... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by Beeboy13579, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. Buy W10 then install on non-genuine W7


    My computer runs a non-genuine version of Windows 7 Pro. If I buy a legit new windows 10 Pro Retail disk can I upgrade from my non-genuine W7, or do I need to do a clean install of W10 (and then have to reinstall a whole lot of other software)?

    :)
     
    Beeboy13579, Mar 26, 2016
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  2. Other means to get Windows 10 update with a genuine Windows 7 key

    Hi,

    I had got my laptop with genuine W7 Home Basic pre installed, but due to unavoidable circumstances I am currently not using that. Though I have the product key but cannot upgrade to W10 via 'Get W10 App'.

    Can I get the free update with my genuine W7 key after July 29th by any means?
     
    LokeshSingh7, Mar 26, 2016
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  3. Purchasing and installing w10 home on non genuine w7 ultimate

    hello,

    i am running w7 ultimate non genuine and purchased (yes purchased) w10 home on the Microsoft website and have an activation key received via email and on the Microsoft website.

    i downloaded the median creation tool and tried to do an upgrade but it wouldn't accept my perfectly fine activation key for Windows 10 home

    is it because the media creation tool automatically downloads the porting version (ie. Windows 7 ultimate to Windows 10 ultimate/pro) and so my key doesn't work as it only works for Windows 10 Home version?

    if so, how do I go about installing over my current Windows 7 ultimate version with my purchased Windows 10 home ?

    im thinking the only way for the media creation tool to download the correct version of Windows 10 I would need to do a fresh install of Windows 7 home and re download using the media creation tool and try install again that way.

    i was thinking here must be another way or am I wrong? It wouldn't make sense for Microsoft to encourage me to install a non genuine Windows 7 home in order to upgrade to a purchased Windows 10, or at least to me it does
     
    jaeilchoi1, Mar 26, 2016
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  4. Mystere Win User

    Buy W10 then install on non-genuine W7

    If you buy a new retail pro disk, you won't have to upgrade. If you mean, can you perform an upgrade and keep your files and apps, then yes. Assuming it's not an OEM version of Windows 10.
     
    Mystere, Mar 26, 2016
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  5. Thanks mystere. My main concern is I don't want to have to reinstall a whole lot of software and apps. I know this is an option if you upgrade from W7 to W10. I am just not sure if this an option if I upgrade from a non-genuine W7.
     
    Beeboy13579, Mar 26, 2016
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  6. Fafhrd Win User
    An alternative is to buy a genuine Windows 7 Pro full retail license from a reputable source, then to make your current Windows 7 Genuine with the purchased product key, and then use a Free Windows 10 download (ISO or MCT) to perform an upgrade installation. You may still have to install some software and apps post-upgrade.

    Doesn't Microsoft allow you to upgrade non-genuine 7 or 8x installations, and allow you to legitimize them afterwards?

    If genuine 7 keys are hard to come by, 8, or 8.1 keys will activate Windows 10 too, post installation.
    The following post provides a list of all qualifying keys to choose from (not all are retail, and OEM keys will not be transferable)):

    Next big Windows 10 release will ease activation hassles - Page 3 - Windows 10 Forums

    However, you first need to confirm that your Windows 7 machine will successfully install, and run Windows 10, and then run a suitable backup/system image before upgrading to be safe.

    The Windows 8.1 upgrade assistant is a quite reliable indicator of what hardware and software will be incompatible: Upgrading to Windows 8.1 from Windows 7 - Windows Help
     
    Fafhrd, Mar 26, 2016
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  7. Thanks fafhrd. I think I might have to buy the W10 retail and see if I can upgrade from non-genuine W7 while keeping existing apps. Worst case is that the upgrade doesn't work at all - then I'll simply have to do a clean install of the W10 retail then reinstall my other software. A bit of a pain, but it will work.
     
    Beeboy13579, Mar 26, 2016
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  8. cereberus Win User

    Buy W10 then install on non-genuine W7

    It is perfectly acceptable to use an oem 10 licence as well, but licence cannot be transferred to new pc of course.
     
    cereberus, Mar 26, 2016
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  9. Mystere Win User
    I am not 100% sure, but in past versions OEM licenses were forbidden to be installed on a computer that already had an OS, and they disabled the upgrade feature. You could only do a clean install. Not sure about 10 though.
     
    Mystere, Mar 26, 2016
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  10. Mystere Win User
    In fact, the only way to bring your license current would be to buy a Windows 10 license, since MS is no longer selling Windows 7 licenses.
     
    Mystere, Mar 26, 2016
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  11. NavyLCDR New Member
  12. Mystere Win User
    Mystere, Mar 27, 2016
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  13. NavyLCDR New Member

    Buy W10 then install on non-genuine W7

    However, your reason does not validate your statement.

    This statement is not true.

    This may be true, but they are officially supporting Windows 7 until January 2020 and there are completely legal ways to obtain a current Windows license without purchasing a Windows 10 license.
     
    NavyLCDR, Mar 27, 2016
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  14. Fafhrd Win User
    There's a fine difference between upgradeable and qualifying (there was, back with Windows 8 too.)

    You can legitimize a windows 10 install or upgrade, with a Windows 7, 8, 8,1 (from the list below) or a purchased 10 valid key for the edition installed. Or from a digital entitlement from an activated installed 7, 8, 8.1, or 10 installation on the same machine. These have qualifying installations.

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OEM:COA Windows 7 SP1 HomePremium Retail Windows 7 SP1 UltimateN Retail:WAUx Windows 7 SP1 HomePremiumN Retail:WAUx[/quote] Microsoft has allowed upgrades to 10 from unlicensed Windows installations since the RTM came out - but the resulting windows 10 will display the watermark and nags to become activated and genuine soon after installation. They are upgradeable OSs, but not qualifying OSs.

    If you have a valid and unused (not in use elsewhere for retail) key of the type appearing in the list be it a Free or $15 Windows 8 MCE retail upgrade, or an unused OEM key from a similar model from the same OEM, it is likely to be recognised as a qualifying product key. Only non-SLP OEM keys will be accepted.

    You can still buy Windows 8.1 retail and OEM system builder products, Pro and Core, and all sorts of other editions in various geographical locations, the product keys of which since build 10565 will activate and legitimize Windows 10 if entered during setup or applied post-install. In fact they are currently, probably easier to obtain than Windows 10 packs, because of the offer of the free upgrade until July, when the full scale release of Windows 10 in the market will begin to have a greater impact on the sale and availability of earlier versions. Retailers like Tesco in the UK are pushing their stocks of Windows 8.1 home cheaply, 7 Pro at a premium price, and the Free Upgrade to 10 is one of their marketing features, but they are not actively marketing Windows 10, except on USB yetIt is just not so popular as the 8.1 version, understandably.

    Buy W10 then install on non-genuine W7 [​IMG]
     
    Fafhrd, Mar 27, 2016
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  15. Mystere Win User
    You're being overly confusing. He was talking about purchasing a retail license of Windows 10 and upgrading his non-valid Windows 7 using his Windows 10 license.

    This does not display a watermark or nag screen. You're talking about using the digital entitlement to upgrade a non-valid copy of Windows 7.

    It's perfectly fine to upgrade to a retail Windows 10 with a retail Windows 10 license from an invalid Windows 7.
     
    Mystere, Mar 27, 2016
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