Windows 10: Calling SSD users. What does your 'Optimise' window show ?

I've got my SSD set to optimise daily and I'm puzzled by the results. Previously I had it set to 'weekly' and nothing seemed to happen there either.

Is this a glitch in the W10 GUI ? or is the SSD firmware overriding Windows and doing its own thing.

Is there any registry key that shows when it was last run, and/or when it will run next ? Vista used to have such a thing for defragging boot files as I recall. You could look and see when it was last done.

Just puzzled that's all.





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Defragment and Optimise Drives on win 10

Hi

I have solved my problem. It was disabled on services and it shows as optimise dives on services. I did not know, just after a research.

My disk is not ssd but just a quick question: why we should not optimise ssd?

 

CANT OPTIMISE AS HDD SHOWING AS SSD

Hello,

Thank you for posting your query on Microsoft Community.

As per description, As are facing issues while optimizing the hard drive.

Which hard drive do you have on your system?

What is the make and model of your system?

Some of the community members found this issue occurs with the Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver.

For reference check the link below:

HDD shows up as SSD (Optimize instead of Defrag)

If this is the case, I would suggest you to go the system manufacture website and update the BIOS and check if that helps.

BIOS Disclaimer:

Modifying BIOS/ complementary metal oxide semiconductor (CMOS) settings incorrectly can cause serious problems that may prevent your computer from booting properly. Microsoft cannot guarantee that any problems resulting from the configuring of BIOS/CMOS
settings can be solved. Modifications of the settings are at your own risk.



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You should not be optimizing a ssd, it does it on it`s own.

It`s supposed to be turned off on a ssd, totally normal.

You should turn off the schedule and optimize your hard drives manually, too much of that can kill a hard drive or even create bad sectors.

This is a brand new install I just did, that`s why all my drives say never run, but they were defragmented from W7 so there`s no need to optimize them now, I`ll do it on 10 when I get to it *Smile

 

Same here it happened to me so I turn off optimized drive automatically and now I use Samsung Magician to Trim manually.

 

Thanks folks *Smile

As I understand it, defragmenting is the thing that is neither needed nor recommended for SSD, but trimming or optimising definitely is as it speeds up writing to previously used sectors that have been marked as available for use.

My W10 install was clean installed onto an SSD and so no defragmentation option or even graphical display of fragmentation is available.

I'm surprised nothing has altered in the GUI because the last couple of weeks have seen me doing a huge amount of work that generates temp files as high as 10 to 15 Gb (yes Gb) and hundred of smaller files that keep getting shuffled and altered/deleted.

 

The way a modern SSD works is like this. The firmware of the SSD will perform the trim function when it deems it is necessary to do so. I do not have any idea what the specifications for a firmware initiated trim are and I suspect that would be different from model to model. What the Windows SSD optimization does is send the signal to the SSD firmware to initiate the trim function manually.

I see two things, IMHO. 1. The SSD firmware is more than likely going to keep the SSD running in the optimum condition by doing trim when it necessary to do so. 2. I agree, the scheduling function within Windows 10 for sending the signal to do the trim operation to the SSD on a time scheduled basis does appear to be broken. I do not think that this will affect SSD performance in any noticeable way due to the SSD firmware taking care of it anyway.

Excessive "trimming" of the SSD will do no harm because each cell must be "trimmed" - reset - before it can be written to again anyway. The only thing that excessive "trimming" can affect is that if the SSD is busy with the trimming operation on a cell, it cannot read data from another cell during that operation so if the trim operation is occurring during a period of heavy read/write operation such as transferring a large file, it will affect performance.

BTW, my Windows optimization screen shows 11 days since SSD optimization even though the frequency is set to weekly.

This is interesting, though. My SSD dashboard program has an option to enable Windows trim or not. When I just loaded the program, the box was not checked. I manually checked it:

 

Thanks for the explanation and info *Smile You seem to be confirming that there is a 'bug' in the way the W10 interfaces reports the status. I haven't any 3rd party SSD management tools installed but yes (lol) that is confusing on your set up. And just seeing your screen shot and 'task scheduler' getting a mention led to me turning this up. Just one of many In know and how true it all is I don't know.

Why Windows 10, 8.1 and 8 defragment your SSD and how you can avoid this – Вадим Стеркин

 

As stated by Navy a ssd may or may not have it`s own software program.

And it`s also a good idea to set aside some unallocated space.

 

Thanks. I do have a small amount of unallocated space, more by accident than design as I like to see round numbers for partition sizes as viewed in file explorer.

 

AddRAM , Why do you have Rapid Mode OFF ??

 

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It isn't. Like most advice on SSDs one sees on the internet it is advice from another decade that was most likely not true in the first place.

The SSD does it by itself. If you buy an enterprise class SSD it will generally have a higher percentage assigned to overprovisioning than a home one. This is to increase reliability.

This is invisible to you the user (or you the operating system). The SSD does not expose the full capacity.

There is an argument that running a SSD 99% full is detrimental but you won't be anyway. You'll be running 99% of the exposed capacity. In any case making a partition and leaving unallocated space is pointless. If you were really worried about it you should just make one partition and not fill it to 99%.

You could do better than read this Exploring the Relationship Between Spare Area and Performance Consistency in Modern SSDs

 

As lx07 stated above, the unallocated space happens internally within the drive and it's not exposed to the end user. There is no point in keeping a chunk of unallocated disk space at the end of your SSD as others have shown here. That's a misunderstanding of how the unallocated provisioning works in an SSD.

 

and this:
https://www.sandisk.com/content/dam/...k-x400-ssd.pdf

The need to manually set aside extra space depends upon the design of the specific SSD and the anticipated usage of it. I don't have any space manually set aside on my 4 SSDs. My SSDs never get much more than 50% capacity used anyway.