Windows 10: Can someone point me in the direction of the 'real' upgrade benefits

IE haven't changed in ages not counting one as APP in W8.

 

I'm going to disagree as well, especially since you contradicted yourself in your own post. Experiences do vary, but going by the vast majority, Windows 10 is as stable or more so than any previous Windows version. IE11 works perfectly fine, and so does Chrome.

 

With Win 10 you can certainly have more fun wondering why x suddenly doesn't work, and then unpicking the settings that you changed in all innocence that both don't and didn't seem to have any correlation with x and how it works but is actually the cause.

(I'm trying to put that in a positive light since it's Christmas *chuckle).

E.g. changing language settings can stop you from being able to search Settings, and getting 'search results aren't quite ready yet' = 'and they won't be...'

Changing the default search Index locations for search can stop Settings search working quickly (= indexed) and run slowly (non-indexed). It's not obvious there's any correlation between the Index locations and this search.

Tampering with some Privacy settings can have unexpected consequences.

 

From what I have observed I would say that Windows 10 is "work in progress". So if you have no special need for it I would recommend to stay away - at least for the time being.

 

Keep in mind that with 10 it's always going to be in that status with the new rolling update/upgrade process. So, how long would suggest someone wait??

 

I would wait until no more serious problems are being reported. What is the rush to W10 anyhow. If you have a well working W7, why change.

 

But why not? 10 is as stable right now as 7 was back in the day. Given a user doesn't have issues with drivers, blue-tooth, networks there really is no reason not to upgrade. People are always going to have issues with each build regardless how long 10 has been out.

In my way of thinking there's no reason not to upgrade and doing it now while it's still free will give people time to fix problems and roll back to their previous OS and go back to 10.

Just my 2c

 

I have it on three, soon to be 5 computers in a home and business setting. I can't say I've encountered any serious issues. I realize that's a small sample size, but I'm just not seeing any mention of such serious issues that make people thing the OS is in beta or should be avoided.

 

That makes sense if you make an image of your current system and then benifit from the free upgrade. Then you have both options.

 

Options are good !!

 

A few things windows 10 that bugs me. I can't seem to get a clarification of what passwords does Microsoft record or what keystrokes maybe recorded (That could also happen with windows 7 & 8.1 with certain updates installed).

I got to thinking about the password issue, the so called key logger, browsing history, voice recording, video recording,text recording, and email history

For example the passwords they record if you use the mail app or twitter app or any app from the store that requires a password. The browsing history is only related what you visit using Internet Explorer or Edge. The Voice/Video is most likely related to the Skype app, the text recording is related to twitter. The email history or email you send is related to Mail app. Otherwise, the apps wouldn't work. They had to be generic do to legal reason and the app name could change in the future or have a different app that does the same thing.

As far as the keystrokes, I think that what you put in the Cortana search box is the only keystrokes it records, so it can work correctly. If Cortana is disabled, I don't think it records keystrokes.

Also, the other password it remembered is if you associate windows 10 with a Microsoft account. Somethings won't work without an Microsoft account.


If that what 10 really does, then I don't see a problem.

 

My motivation was simple.. if I buy a new laptop, it'll probably come with Win 10. So I wanted to a. move to 64 bits and b. initially discover what it was like and c. have a base from which I could use e.g. Easeus ToDo PCTrans to transfer what I had installed to a new PC.

Trying to install an older OS on a new laptop might not be possible given the potential driver issues.

So it's a kind of enforced path, unless one considers more radical options.

 

When I initially installed Win 10 it seemed OK... Until the forced updates started piling up. Some of them bricked my PC, I had to do a system restore at least twice. Luckily I created an install disk that can run Sysrestore and I actually had a restore point set.

Also I was chugging along on Windows 7 with only 2gb of Ram, under 10, it's not enough. Especially when using any Browser, the system will lock up. I'd say, for old systems like mine, stick with Windows 7 or 8. If you have a new system with 4 to 8 cores and more than 4gb of Ram, it should be fine.

Mainly I use my Main PC to run a Plex Server, a VLC Streamer Server, and to pay my bills. So I only really use it a lot once a month or whenever I update my Plex library. Lately I installed PlexConnect which is a script that runs that allows you to point your Apple TV 3 to the IP of your Plex server, which then allows you to use the "Trailers" app on the ATV to run Plex.

Windows 10 works very well for services like that, it runs background processes extremely well compared to Windows 7 and 8, I used to run my Plex server on Windows 8 and it never ran well there. So there's that. I also do a lot of manipulating of my Apple and Samsung Devices on this PC, I've jailbroken all my Apple devices and restored and rooted my Galaxy Tab 3 which was Knoxed, Odin allowed me to restore the original PDA file and it ran better on Windows 10 than it ran on 7. When I was setting up after installing, the Wizard asked me if I wanted to shut off SmartScreen, and that has made a big difference. And some of the other tricks in the tutorials section have been swell too, I can install updates whenever I want to and I can even choose to skip certain ones.

I'm not impressed much with the tile apps, I'd be happy enough to strip all of that out of this OS. A new PC or Tablet with a touch screen might find those handy, but I'm used to doing everything with Mouse and Keyboard (I even use a BT Mouse and KB on my iPad, so it acts more like a laptop).

Since I have a Video Card that can't hack 60fps I can't do much with that, Video does not play back very well. But my Asus MB was made in 2006, I can't afford a new system. That's why I liked Windows 8 - It ran great on very old hardware, whereas Windows 10 seems to be for the latest stuff.

The last issue is, I always use 32-bit OSes on my Desktop PCs due to old hardware I use that requires 16-bit drivers, which won't work in the 64-bit versions. When I added my Printer and Scanner, it opted me to install 16-bit support.

 

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Your 32 bit windows 7 or 8.x should be upgraded to windows 10 32 bit not 64 bit. On the 32 bit you will need to enable ntvdm windows 10 for 16 bit drivers to work. Check your system properties, type "system" without quotes in the search box. It should say 32 bit or 64 bit operating system.


If you did a clean install you download the wrong architecture. Only if you have the windows 64 bit installation and want to switch to 32 bit. A clean install will be required backup any data you want keep. Delete the $Windows.~BT & $Windows.~WS Folders (These folder may or may not be hidden) Download the 64 bit Media creation tool. Choose Advance or other options. Choose x86(32 bit) option. Now create either an iso image or usb install. After all that is done, do a clean install of Windows 10.

 

You are welcome to disagree with me but I would warn anyone wants to upgrade to Win 10 to be aware of the pitfalls, I think the "vast majority" who don't have any problems must have got high specked systems, BTW, some of the Acer Windows 10 laptops are being sold with FF pre-installed which they never did previously.