Windows 10: Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First

Discus and support Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First in Windows 10 Tutorials to solve the problem; Shawn, this is a great tutorial, thanks. I don't know if you recall my issues with the clean install earlier but in short, I went through the upgrade... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Tutorials' started by Night Hawk, Sep 22, 2015.

  1. Brink
    Brink New Member

    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First


    Hello Greg, *Smile

    This can be done if the current Windows is activated to create a gatherosstate.exe file from, or you already created a gatherosstate.exe file previously to use.
     
    Brink, Oct 2, 2015
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  2. Sometimes it will take a day or so to automatically activate due to however busy the activation servers are at the time. If you rushed to see the second upgrade you may not have allowed enough time for 10 to activate itself. The gatherostate however makes for a good safety net! *Thumbs
     
    Night Hawk, Oct 2, 2015
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  3. gzt7d8 Win User
    I attempted the clean install about 30 days after I successfully completed the upgrade from Windows 8.1. I gave the clean install it a little more than a week to activate before contacting MS support for the 2nd time and got a "so sorry you'll have to start all over again"....grrr. *Mad

    This method looks promising, I'm going to get my ducks in a row and try it out soon.

    Thanks!
     
    gzt7d8, Oct 2, 2015
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  4. Dch48 Win User

    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First

    I used this method to clean install Win 10 in a dual boot configuration with Win 7. I copied the file from my Win 10 DVD (I will not use USB booting), ran it on the Windows 7 desktop, then copied the GenuineTicket.xml to a flash drive. I had already created a new partition on my hard drive. I then booted from the DVD, did a custom install telling it to install in the new partition and skipping the product key insertion (it asked twice). After Win 10 was up and running, I copied and pasted the ticket file to the location given in the tutorial, rebooted, and voila, Windows is activated. I got Windows 10 free without losing Windows 7.

    I find this strange, however. I checked out the ticket location on the computer I upgraded from 8.1 by using the Media Creation Tool and there is no GenuineTicket.xml file present.
     
    Dch48, Oct 3, 2015
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  5. Brink
    Brink New Member
    You are violating the EULA by having both installed and activated at the same time. Eventually one or both will become deactivated.

    You are suppose to no longer have Windows 7 activated as long as you have the free Windows 10 installed and activated.
     
    Brink, Oct 3, 2015
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  6. Dch48 Win User
    I doubt I'm violating anything but we'll see what happens. They said the machine was eligible to receive Windows 10 free and that's just what happened. I never saw anything that said you couldn't keep both.
     
    Dch48, Oct 3, 2015
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    Brink New Member
    Brink, Oct 3, 2015
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  8. Superfly Win User

    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First

    Shawn's correct, what MS needs to do is build in technical backstops to augment the EULA... currently one can easily bypass the EULA. Both Windows and Office... This is not the 1900's where it appears it relied on people's consciousness.
     
    Superfly, Oct 3, 2015
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  9. Brink
    Brink New Member
    Eventually they'll get flagged when checking in with the Microsoft activation servers, and both will be deactivated.

    This is why I'm hoping they'll listen to my warning about violating the EULA like that.
     
    Brink, Oct 3, 2015
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  10. Dch48 Win User
    It is not clearly stated in either the EULA or the FAQs that you can't have both. It just gives the regular upgrade procedure but does not mention dual booting anywhere. Granted, without using this tutorial, you can't do it so maybe it's the tutorial that is in violation more than me. The tutorial tells you how to circumvent the normal procedure which is exactly what I did. I just took it a step further to see if it would work and I actually didn't think it would.

    You can't be in violation if it is not clearly stated that what you did is wrong, and, it is not.
     
    Dch48, Oct 3, 2015
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  11. Brink
    Brink New Member
    It's pretty clear from the EULA:

    Nope. If you do what it says in the tutorial, then it's only doing what the upgrade to Windows 10 does.

    If you do what you did and kept both Windows installations activated and installed, then you are violating the EULA. It's been this way forever for any upgrade copy of Windows.

    Don't say I didn't warn you when find your Windows deactivated one day.
     
    Brink, Oct 3, 2015
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  12. Dch48 Win User
    As I said in my edited post. I just tried it to see if it would work. I didn't think it would and was surprised when it did. If they deactivate the Windows 10 installation, I don't really care but they'd better leave the Windows 7 alone.
     
    Dch48, Oct 3, 2015
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  13. Dell Win User

    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First

    I have just tried to create the getosstate file in activated Windows 8 but there is nothing on my desktop or anywhere else that I can find.
    any help would be appreciated.
     
  14. Brink
    Brink New Member
    Hello Dell, *Smile

    Double check the steps to see if you may have made a mistake somewhere.
     
    Brink, Oct 3, 2015
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  15. Dell Win User
    Thanks brink
    i have double checked
    I put win 10 DVD in mount double click source click gatherosstate run as admin click yes on pop up then nothing.
     
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