Windows 10: Contrast.

Well, what is "screen contrast"??? There is more than only way to change contrast. Are you referring to your monitor contrast settings that you adjust using hardware controls on your monitor? Or are you referring to screen contrast controls available, say, through your video card driver settings?

Um, well... I'm a heavy user of graphical applications. Specifically, I do a lot of photo processing on calibrated and profiled monitors. However, I never had a reason to turn up my monitors' contrast levels to the point where they result in such detrimental effects (especially of the nature you describe). In fact, most of the time I calibrate and profile my monitors for using their native contract setting, which I keep at its comfortable level.

But that's the whole point: to figure out what exactly is causing your contrast issue. If your Windows has somehow switched to some bizarre low-contrast color scheme, then it would immediately be visible to anyone on your screenshot. If, on the other hand, the issue is caused purely by your monitor then the screenshot would look normal to us.

From your description, it appears that the issue is caused solely by monitor settings. Well, I don't know what to say since, as I said above, despite being heavily involved with graphical applications I have never felt any need to jack up my monitor contrast settings to such high levels.

 

I think you are kind of very confused about how color management interacts with the OS and the related hardware connected; have you never heard about ICC profiles and color spaces, get information about these arguments, will be useful to understand how things work in the graphic aspect of a system (being kind of "professional!!!" user) you should have already learned about this matter ; after you did and cleared up the haze you have in your brain (if it happens you have one) about this matter you better apologize about the "silly stuff".

 

Dear Tjaranis,

Please have a look at this website. I have viewed this in all operating systems I use and Windows 10 behaves no differently to W7 or W8. My monitor or settings have not needed tweaking because of an OS change.

LCD monitor test images

Have a read of the information and instructions for using the test images. As it says: If you have any kind of color management system active in your operating system or video-card driver, then disable that first. First make adjustments to the monitor settings to let it behave as close to the ideal as possible, and only after that you can use the color management to compensate for any small deviations that remain.

 

ok let me put it this way:
i got 4 system (2 labtops, 2 stationary), all had win 8 all functioning, around same screen contrast, only change updated from win8 to win10, ALL have this same issue, and ALL is "fixed" by lowering the contrast.
HOWEVER, by lowering the screen contrast the colours alters their "clearness" (in lack of a better word) in comparison to each other, this is a major issue for the things i am using it to. and VERY damn annoying.

now as some mention earlier, i have little knowledge about colour schemes, contrast etc. it is not my area of expectice neither is it something i use much time on.
but I am not blind and i am not stupid in general when it comes to it (I got a ba in computer science and doing my master courses now and been working with coding for some time before that; so I am not a complete idiot on the subject).

what I have noticed on 4 different pc's is that when upgrading from win8 to win10, All had the same issue.
now when i search the net for this issue, there is A LOT! Of people complaining about the same thing. so I most assume someone ****ed up somewhere and it is not just something really weird that happened on all 4 systems due to pure unlucky.

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as for colour software I deliberately doesn't use any overlays of any kind due to it taking up resources that I need for the applications I run.

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I have tried everything which I could find as a “solution” without luck, except making my own CSS as an overlay (which as mentioned wouldn’t fix it, just created other issues by doing so, in the same manner as using a high contrast theme), but I can’t get the same clearness of the colours on win10 as I had in win8.

I will check the “idea’s” given here (since I am not above believing I could be wrong), but I think most of you misunderstand the issue or straight out ignores it.

(it does however annoy me quite a bit that something THAT simple needs to be such a plague to actually get to function... all that was needed was simply to insure that the UI colour scheme didn't have "invisible" elements when contrast is high. personally i would think this is basic areas to test when you are designing something.)

 

I am sorry it was not clear enough.
Screen contrast I assumed people would understand I meant the contrast adjusted on the screen, not software.
I am running default on the graphic cards (no overlay set on or active) and changed nothing when it comes to this area on the system either.
I generally tend to keep my fingers away from stuff which I don’t need *Smile

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For applications, I do a lot of gaming where the contrast does a major difference on whether or not your eye notice the small changes in colour which indicates enemies (I generally play in top 2% so the difference is noticeable, just as much as 10+ms difference can be a major issue at that level). I do drawings and general artwork (just for fun) which I also find annoying when the colours are less “clear” (lack of a better word).

But in the end it comes down to preference, and Needs. Some people might not need it, others might.
What I reacted too is that, my needs have never been an issue in earlier windows systems, which is why I am so confused over why something would change from win8 to 10.

As I mention in the post above, I am no expert when it comes to the colour schemes etc. it is not something I generally involved myself in or did an effort to learn, simply because I never had the need for it and my expertice lay elsewhere (and there is more than enough material I need to learn to not need extra hehe).
But I find it daunting that this should suddenly be an issue.

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It is very nice for you that you have never felt the need for it, just like so many other things some people don’t feel the need for while others do.
However as mentioned this is a personal preference, and the change is my complaint because I see no reason to make such a change which have this impact on a lot of users. if you search there are plenty of people mentioning this, and that is without thinking about all those that simply don’t know why, don’t care to write, or just give up on it.
I had personally given up on a solution and is mostly writing out of pure irritation over how ridiculous it is that this is still an issue, when I imagine all that would be needed is a change to the colour type of the specific UI elements that handles the borders and scrollbars.

BTW: there is properly a way to manually get the effect I am looking for by doing a lot of tweaking with colour scheme, effects etc. but again as said, not my expertice and not something I have an interest in using the time to learn, especially when I never needed it before.

(you can see the two screenshot i did, that one is showing scollbars and borders of the text box, the other isn't, only difference is simply contrast being halved in the one you can see them)

 

Hi Tjaranis,

I appreciate your responses and further explanation. I recreated the effect on my laptop by simply adjusting the angle of my screen, there is a point where the scroll bar just disappears (quite normal for such LCD displays to behave in this way). What I don't know is whether this effect is worse in W10 than in W8 and unfortunately I don't have the means to test this. Perhaps someone with a dual boot laptop can test and report back.

I also looked at my monitor settings on my desktop PC and I have the contrast set to 50%, this is the optimum setting for my monitor and always has been and was found a long time ago when using W8 and setting it up using the lagorn website I referred to in my earlier post.

I do believe that even if there is a subtle difference between W8 and W10 you should be able to get to a really good screen view by setting up the monitor as I suggested in post #16 and working through all the tests. The viewing angle and a number of other aspects such as whether you are looking at the top or bottom of the screen can all make a difference, and of course some monitors are better quality than others.

 

Just change the word nature into W10 in my signature and you have the solution to this "enigma" *Roflmao2