Windows 10: CU bug?: "Some settings are hidden or managed by your organization

Discus and support CU bug?: "Some settings are hidden or managed by your organization in Windows 10 Updates and Activation to solve the problem; @WOT: Sorry, but that's not my nature. I'm quite secretive and antisocial despite somehow managing a business of less than 10 people. I've always... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Updates and Activation' started by AnonVendetta, May 7, 2017.

  1. CU bug?: "Some settings are hidden or managed by your organization


    @WOT: Sorry, but that's not my nature. I'm quite secretive and antisocial despite somehow managing a business of less than 10 people. I've always operated on the need-to-know principle. I tend to give out only the relevant info and only on an as-needed basis. Otherwise I should just go ahead and publish my business's private info on the Net so my competitors can potentially use it for their gain.

    I need to stay productive, so I'll read into this a bit further to see if there is a simple fix, otherwise my hardware needs to be back in a working state soon, that means rolling back. Then I'll either mark the topic as solved, or not.
     
    AnonVendetta, May 7, 2017
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  2. sml156 Win User

    Look in the advanced update settings (scroll down) you probably have something checked there.


    CU bug?: "Some settings are hidden or managed by your organization [​IMG]
     
    sml156, May 7, 2017
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  3. WOT
    WOT Win User
    Recently, an OP wanted to know if he should increase his pagefile size to increase performance. So many members responded with their opinion. So, after a few pages of responses, he "adds" the reason that he likes to play a game but it is slow and he identifies the game. So now after a few more pages of responses he finally reveals the real reason why he wanted to increase the pagefile size... and guess what that was? Because his RAM was getting close to being maxed out when playing that game. Then he decides to throw a few negative responses because people made suggestions not knowing the full story.
     
  4. tracit99 Win User

    CU bug?: "Some settings are hidden or managed by your organization

    @AnonVendetta

    While Windows usually does a good job of installing properly sometimes it does not. The root of your issue probably lies within the Windows registry. While the GPO editor is fine for making changes it ultimately changes the registry. I think of it as frontend for editing the registry. So with that said check out this tutorial by Shawn @Brink. I think maybe the solution to your issue can be found there.

    Enable or Disable Windows Update Automatic Updates in Windows 10 Windows Update & Activation

    See specifically Option Two. You may need to Signout/Signin or maybe even reboot to register change. Windows can be tricky about these kind of changes and it may not change immediately. There may even be another registry setting that may over-ride changes discussed in the tutorial. I am currently not of aware of any specific setting that could do that. I'm just saying.
     
    tracit99, May 7, 2017
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  5. So, I did a clean install of 1703 CU on the SSD, with all partitions removed via diskpart's "clean" command beforehand. It was just a regular install from USB, no manually using WAIK/DISM/ImageX/wimlib (the latter is my normal route and it has worked fine for years). So the installer created the default 4 partitions (Recovery, EFI, Microsoft reserved, and C drive, in that order).

    Afterwards it booted into the initial setup wizard, my exact settings are as follows:
    1. Set region and keyboard layout, added no additional KB layouts
    2. Didn't connect to the Net, created local admin account with no password
    3. Denied Cortana permission to use info needed to do best work

    Then I disabled:
    1. Location
    2. Diagnostics
    3. Relevant ads
    4. Speech recognition
    5. Tailored experiences with diagnostic data

    This was all within the wizard. I do find it a bit creepy that Cortana activated my speakers and microphone without even bothering to ask, it does say you can disable the speaking in the wizard, but I prefer that 10 ask for permission first. MS misses the basic concept of who owns the hardware (me) vs who owns the OS (them). Everything they do on end users' hardware should be done with explicit consent. My PC speaking to me isn't something I'm accustomed to.

    Anyway, I opened Settings immediately after getting to the desktop, then checked WU.....everything looks fine. No "managed by your organization" message or a grayed out box to download recommended updates for other products. My earlier setup was essentially the same as this, but I did change some minor settings (folder views, drive letters, etc). So I can deduce that *something* I did before triggered this. The PC is fully operational and doesn't prevent me from working, so for now I'm going to keep an exhaustive log of everything I do to see if it happens again. Then I'll report back.
     
    AnonVendetta, May 8, 2017
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  6. I'm running Windows 10 Pro.

    Thanks to the suggestion to look in Advanced options in the Settings app I have a hint of what's causing my warning. "*Give me updates for other Microsoft products when I update Windows." is greyed out. Above, in red text I see "*Some settings are hidden or managed by your organisation."

    I presume this is something that Microsoft is enforcing through the Creators Update and that its settings app perceives as being out of the ordinary. This warning persisted through a Fresh Start of Creators Update.


    CU bug?: "Some settings are hidden or managed by your organization [​IMG]
     
    alphaberry, May 12, 2017
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  7. sml156 Win User
    You should check the box "Use my sign in info" (Although it has nothing to do with this post)

    Use sign in info to auto finish set up Windows Update in Windows 10 Windows 10 Windows Update Activation Tutorials
     
    sml156, May 13, 2017
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  8. CU bug?: "Some settings are hidden or managed by your organization

    Doesn't work with BitLocker and I plan to turn BitLocker on again in the not-so-distant future.
     
    alphaberry, May 13, 2017
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  9. Well... slowly but surely... it looks like it is two separate issues. The grayed-out "Give me updates for other Microsoft products when I update Windows" can be corrected by going in to GPEdit, Computer Configuration=>Administrative Templates=>Windows Components=>Windows Update. "Enable" Configure Automatic Updates and check "Install Updates for other Microsoft Products". Check for Updates then reverse the process and set it back to "Not Configured". Then run another Windows Update. At that point the grayed-out option is selectable and un-selectable. Go figure.

    Still haven't it a sure fire fix for the red warning "*Some settings are hidden or managed by your organization" but baby steps.... will call Microsoft if I can't figure that one out. They have to be releated somehow....
     
    ZiggyStardust, Jul 13, 2017
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  10. Myhrddin Win User
    I'm having the same issue though, the system came with 10 home x64 as it's initial OS. This also happened on my notebook which has been upgraded and has 10 pro x64 but, everything's fine on my bedroom system that's a refurb with 10 pro x64. All are activated btw. I'd hoped that some of the post-release updates after Creator's was installed would've amended the issue but, not yet on mine. And, being a person who likes to customize my os to suit, it's pretty frustrating. ..will keep diggin' but, if someone's got this buggered out already, drop me a note, please. Have a bit of a migraine going and probably miss bits here.n.there. Thanks for everyone's input & expertise btw. It's nice to see actual thought working somewhere (if you know what I mean). ;-) ~Myr
     
    Myhrddin, Aug 5, 2017
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  11. One thing that apparently causes it, is when people go out of their way to block telemetry. "Microsoft is spying on me" etc. They kill services and do other unorthodox things to stop info from going to Microsoft. And cripple their system in the process. I had my issue with a stock, clean install, with all the defaults selected during the OOBE. There are at least two different instances of this. Most of those with this issue on Home and Pro, see that message on different Settings pages than I do in Education. Same message just in different places and with different settings locked out from what I see. I'm currently not running the Education version anymore. I'm debating installing it on my spare desktop PC and revisiting this issue. It's a painful process though. Edit group policies, reboot, and check if it worked. Then go back and undo what you changed and try another. Wash rinse repeat.

    EDIT: I have never had this issue on any Home or Pro installs. For me it only happens on the Education version.
     
    alphanumeric, Aug 5, 2017
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  12. Just did an in place upgrade from Pro to Education via change product key. All the same settings I mentioned here, *Some settings are hidden or managed by your company are locked out etc. Laying back and relaxing today, but I will try a few things Monday and post back.
     
    alphanumeric, Aug 5, 2017
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  13. CU bug?: "Some settings are hidden or managed by your organization

    Went to Settings > Privacy > Feedback & diagnostics and noticed that neither Basic or Full was selected? One would think one or the other should have been set? Selected Full and rebooted but it didn't help. Nothing being selected may be a side effect of what ever the actual issue is though. Still working on it.

    Let Microsoft provide more tailored experiences with relevant tips..... Was on though.
     
    alphanumeric, Apr 5, 2018
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