Windows 10: Daily Win 10 auto update attempts, 100% fail rate

Discus and support Daily Win 10 auto update attempts, 100% fail rate in Windows 10 Updates and Activation to solve the problem; It is not possible to go back in time to set a system restore point. It is possible to create backup images/clones using Macrium or Acronis or similar... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Updates and Activation' started by Mh434, Jan 19, 2018.

  1. zbook New Member

    Daily Win 10 auto update attempts, 100% fail rate


    It is not possible to go back in time to set a system restore point.
    It is possible to create backup images/clones using Macrium or Acronis or similar software and then to go back in time with that image or clone.
    There are underlying problems on the computer that can be determined by using the windows error failure message and code and then troubleshooting the logs that were generated whenever there was a failure to upgrade. These logs are the Panther logs. By default they are hidden. Using file explorer you would click on view and check hidden items. Each search takes time and is inefficient. Using Everything the search will be efficient with instantaneous results. It creates an index of all files on all drives. As you type in a character it will display results and the more characters you type the narrower the results.

    The Panther logs are in code and have many ambiguous error messages. It takes time to decode them.
    Post only the logs within the last 30 days so that the logs reflect the latest computer environment.
     
    zbook, Jan 20, 2018
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  2. Mh434 Win User

    By the way, you asked earlier what anti virus I have. I'm currently using Windows Defender and Malware Bytes Premium version. 3.1.1. Interestingly, I've just been looking at the Malwarbytes forum, and some people are reporting exactly the same problem I'm having, with the Win10 1709 update specifically. Some seem to think there's an issue there, and are uninstalling MB temporarily to permit updates. I don't know if that's worth trying or not.
     
    Mh434, Jan 20, 2018
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  3. zbook New Member
    For the next upgrade attempt uninstalling all AV/firewall software products (always on and manual) should be done and the only AV during the upgrade should be Windows defender.
    If you had used other AV software products on the computer they can be incompletely uninstalled.
    In these cases the software uninstaller is run to remove the residual software in the registry that may have interfered with the upgrade.
     
    zbook, Jan 20, 2018
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  4. Mh434 Win User

    Daily Win 10 auto update attempts, 100% fail rate

    Uninstalled Malwarbytes completely this morning, and let the update happen (not that I have a choice). Same cycle, same crash to black screen. As soon as I booted up the machine, within 10 seconds it started the next auto-update cycle. Looks like I only have 10-15 minutes available computer time between crashes now. I did note that the first update to fail was on June 29th 2017 - the exact same date I went live with Malwarebytes Premium. They may even have been downloading simultaneously.

    I've downloaded Everything, and located my Panther logs. There seem to be dozens of file types, and hundreds of screens of stuff, all within the past couple of weeks. Is there a particular file type I should look for & try to post?

    There are 5 file folders titled "Panther" and one file folder called "Panther.lnk"

    If it helps, here's a screen shot of the search results -


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    Mh434, Jan 21, 2018
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  5. Mh434 Win User
    I've re-read your previous responses, and see you've already said which of the Panther files you need to see. Until I'd started looking at the Panther files themselves, I hadn't grasped the meaning of them.

    This may sound like a stupid question (okay, I'm certain it is), but...how do I add these to One Drive & post a link here? I've never used or even opened "one drive". I asked my wife, as she's more competent in this stuff than I am, but she didn't know either. Sorry!

    I did take a look at the "setuperr" file, and it's chock full of error codes and messages. I suspect that they'll make sense to you!
     
    Mh434, Jan 21, 2018
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  6. zbook New Member
    For one drive, drop box, google, etc. they provide some free space where you can move files that are text or images and it will then create a share link. This is the cloud method. Then someone can open up the share link and get access to the text or images as they are already in the cloud. It can take time to upload a file into multiple emails or multiple links. The alternative is to upload once into the the cloud and this then allows you to give the share links instead of moving the files.
    Share OneDrive files and folders - Office Support

    Please update your progress with each step in posts #10 and #12
    drive testing
    clean boot
    safe mode
    etc.

    Was the computer stable in clean boot? safe mode? disconnected from the internet?
    When available please post the images of the test results into the thread.
     
    zbook, Jan 21, 2018
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  7. Mh434 Win User
    Okay, I'll do that. Here's a .zip of the setuperr and setupact logs, if these are of any help -

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    Daily Win 10 auto update attempts, 100% fail rate [​IMG]
     
    Mh434, Jan 21, 2018
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  8. zbook New Member

    Daily Win 10 auto update attempts, 100% fail rate

    For foreign languages you can copy and paste and get an immediate translation.
    For the Panther logs they are in code and there is no method to immediately translate into English.
    If you are able to perform some decoding and get an English statement the statement is often ambiguous.
    Sometimes the Panther logs are useful in that some easy things are found and that fixes the failure to upgrade.
    Most of the time it is a very tedious process.

    Currently the goal is to assess the hardware / software environment and see what can be done to get you a stable environment.
     
    zbook, Jan 21, 2018
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  9. Mh434 Win User
    As per post #10, I don't have Ccleaner on my computer - it appears instructions 1-4 refer to results of Ccleaner.

    I downloaded and ran "Whocrashed" - the results were as follows:

    "Crash dumps are enabled on your computer.

    Crash dump directories:
    C:\WINDOWS
    C:\WINDOWS\Minidump

    No valid crash dumps have been found on your computer"

    I haven't figured out how to post images (such as an image of my device manager list showing installed devices) to the thread with One Drive. Nonetheless, it shows only the PS/2 mouse and PS/2 keyboard as not present or not working. I don't have either of these devices (both are actually USB devices, present & working properly). I assume I should uninstall the two PS/2 devices? If, by "image", you mean an actual picture, I can try to do that:

    Microsoft OneDrive - Access files anywhere. Create docs with free Office Online.

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    Here's a .zip of the BSOD results -


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    Mh434, Jan 21, 2018
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  10. zbook New Member
    Images can be uploaded into the thread or share links can be posted.
    For share links the file is moved into the cloud.
    It can be text, image, video, etc.
    Once the file is moved into the cloud there is a right click option for share which creates a share link.
    The share link is then posted into the thread. There is no waiting for upload as it was already uploaded once.


    Use the information in this link to post images of:
    Take Screenshot in Windows 10 General Tips Tutorials

    1) in the left lower corner type: system > open system control panel > on the left pane click advanced system settings > in startup and recovery click settings > post an image into the thread.

    2) in the left lower corner type: system > open system control panel > on the left pane click advanced system settings > under performance click settings > on the performance options click the advanced tab > under virtual memory click change > post an image into the thread for the virtual memory window



    Code: Event[27278]: Log Name: System Source: volmgr Date: 2018-01-21T17:33:56.905 Event ID: 46 Task: N/A Level: Error Opcode: N/A Keyword: Classic User: N/A User Name: N/A Computer: DESKTOP-7F43MBK Description: Crash dump initialization failed![/quote]
     
    zbook, Jan 21, 2018
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  11. Mh434 Win User
    Here's a screenshot of the Disc Management results. The bottom two drives are Passport hard drives for data storage, and the "L" drive is for my system backups. There's one more, off the bottom of the screen, which is shown in the second image (couldn't compress the page enough to get all on screen at once)


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    Mh434, Jan 21, 2018
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  12. Mh434 Win User
    Here are the results of the Partition Wizard scan -
    Daily Win 10 auto update attempts, 100% fail rate [​IMG]


    I have no encryption software added, beyond what resides in Windows.
     
    Mh434, Jan 21, 2018
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  13. zbook New Member

    Daily Win 10 auto update attempts, 100% fail rate

    For drive C: please create > 35 GB free space
    Keep free drive space > 15% capacity.
     
    zbook, Jan 21, 2018
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  14. Mh434 Win User
    I'm working on that - it's a new, SSD, and it's small (247Gb). I'm moving everything possible to my Passport drives at the moment...

    Okay, I have 47Gb free now on C:/

    Here's the results of the final HD error scan


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    Mh434, Jan 21, 2018
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  15. Mh434 Win User
    I just checked, and my "metered" setting in WiFi is set to "off".
     
    Mh434, Jan 21, 2018
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