Windows 10: "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu

Discus and support "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu in Windows 10 Gaming to solve the problem; Hello,Here is the issue:In Windows Explorer, I have an .html file and I make a right click on it.In the menu, I click on "Open with" menu, then "Choose... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Gaming' started by Bernard QUENTRIC, Feb 12, 2025.

  1. "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu


    Hello,Here is the issue:In Windows Explorer, I have an .html file and I make a right click on it.In the menu, I click on "Open with" menu, then "Choose another app" menu.In the opened menu, the section "Default App" is not present and the command button "Always" is hidden, there is only "Just once".Could you help me to retrieve the "Default App" section ?I am under Windows 11 24H2 with build 26100.2894.Remark : for another type of file, all is good: default app section and Always command button are present.Best regardsBernard

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    Bernard QUENTRIC, Feb 12, 2025
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  2. Callender Win User

    Can I customize the list of suggest apps in the "Open with" menu?

    You can't use it to add additional programs, only to set default programs.

    Interestingly for me it shows nothing for text files:


    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 295391d1598876794t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-setuserfta.config-notepad.jpg



    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 95392d1598876815t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-oemdefaultassociations.xml-notepad.jpg

    Then if I want to add a portable app like Jarte Plus to open with context menu windows doesn't like it.



    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 295393d1598876890t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-open-.jpg

    It's not present and is near impossible to add even via "look for an app on this PC"

    OpenWithAdd to the rescue:


    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 295394d1598876979t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-openwithadd_jarte.jpg

    Result:



    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 295395d1598877008t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-openwithadd_jarte-2.jpg
     
    Callender, Feb 12, 2025
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  3. mngerhold Win User
    Can I customize the list of suggest apps in the "Open with" menu?

    Well, I hope this helps the OP - it took a while. I tried 'Default Program Editor' (DPE) and it did indeed add (or remove) items, but when I tried to specifically add Word to pdf opening, it failed - it went through the motions, but nothing happened. So I started again, playing with settings for opening .doc files. This seemed to work: initially in explorer I had 3 programs appear in the 'default' list that pops up on a rt-click>open-with:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 294973d1598623103t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-explorer-doc-open-b4-edit.png

    and this is what the relevant bit of the Registry showed:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 294974d1598623158t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-regedit-doc-open-b4-edit.png

    Don't ask me why just 3 of those 8 (a to h) programs show up (maybe the 'instant' list is limited to three? - no, see later) - anyway, I used DPE to remove Wordpad from the list: when saving the edit as a REG file, this is what I got:

    Code:
    and the result in Explorer was:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 294976d1598623523t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-explorer-doc-open-after-edit.png

    and the registry now shows:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 294977d1598623552t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-regedit-doc-open-after-edit.png

    Note how item 'g' from the list has been removed (it seems there is no issue with having a letter missing). I then messed about trying to open a .doc file with various other programs, and they all started to appear in the 'instant' list:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 294978d1598623687t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-explorer-doc-open-additions.png


    So I thought 'well, that is easy - just open a pdf once in Word and it should appear'. So back to trying to open PDFs: but however many times I tried, Word would never appear.

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 294979d1598623906t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-explorer-pdf-open-no-word.png

    even though there were any number of entries in the Registry 'Open With' list, including Word:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 980d1598623968t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-regedit-pdf-open-no-word-lots-others.png

    So what did DPE make of this - well, it showed some of the entries:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 294981d1598624067t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-dpe-list-pdf-open-some-others.png

    Although Word is shown, it doesn't appear on a rt-click. Its entry can be removed, but that doesn't help. So my attention was drawn to the existence of another folder below 'OpenWithList', namely 'OpenWithProgids', and that contained a specific ref to Sumatra (my preferred program for PDFs). Looking back at the same entry for .docx, I found this:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 294983d1598624540t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-regedit-doc-open-docx.png

    so I added an identical Word.Document.12 ref to the list for PDFs:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 294984d1598624610t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-regedit-pdf-open-word-progids.png

    I think IrfanView is there as it got added during my experiments! I now get this in Explorer:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 294985d1598624682t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-explorer-pdf-open-word.png
    Hurrah! I then tried to use DPE to remove the redundant entries, and got this as a .REG file:
    Code:
    But when i merge that with the registry, the IrfanView item does not get deleted:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu d1598625244t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-explorer-pdf-open-irfanview-still-there.png

    and as seen in the registry:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 0d1598625265t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-regedit-pdf-open-irfanview-still-there.png

    so I deleted it by hand, and at last have the entries I (or rather, the OP) want:

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu 294991d1598625395t-can-i-customize-list-suggest-apps-open-menu-explorer-pdf-open-i-want.png


    Note that my manually added reg entry is of type Binary', as there seems to be no way to add a value of type 'None'.

    So it seems that DPE cannot cope with entries in the 'Progids' list, and something makes some programs fall into that list, rather than the 'openwithlist'. I am sorry for any typos above, or pictures in the wrong place - can't be bothered to check it too thoroughly. Hope it helps someone!

    atb, Martin
     
    mngerhold, Feb 12, 2025
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  4. kormath Win User

    "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu

    Lost default photo viewer after profile rebuild

    Thanks Brink. I've tried those steps before i started searching Google. After the profile rebuild i don't have the Photo app listed to choose to make it default in either the system settings for default apps or the Open With option.

    I can't even find it doing a search. Seems to have been removed somehow with the profile rebuild, which doesn't make sense.

    Might be helpful to list what i've done "Default app" section no more available in "Open with" popup menu :) I've done the open with check, the choose default program in the system menu, tried that in device manager default programs also. I've checked the programs and features Turn windows features on/off and it's not listed there (never thought it was but that was a suggestion), searched the MS Store, it's not listed there either.

    I don't like playing in the registry unless i have defined steps and haven't found anything for this yet, just the Win7 version like in my OP.
     
    kormath, Feb 12, 2025
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