Windows 10: Disabled services have been turned back ON again (after update?)

Discus and support Disabled services have been turned back ON again (after update?) in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; I am running a host with Windows 10 Pro and multiple VMs (I am no longer using HyperV, that's a disaster, I'll save that discussion for another... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by RedmondFanatic, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. Disabled services have been turned back ON again (after update?)


    I am running a host with Windows 10 Pro and multiple VMs (I am no longer using HyperV, that's a disaster, I'll save that discussion for another thread).

    Because it's a host, I want as few running bits as possible. I disabled a week ago all services which I do not need running on the host. The system was perfectly stable and I was happy. Some really problematic services which open ports and which had critical vulnerabilities in the past, were now shut-down.

    This morning, ALL disabled services are back and running again (a few are just back to Manual, as they previously were).

    I strongly suspect the problem is the "Windows Creators Fall Update" which finished to install this morning.

    The question: is there a way to disable the services and tell windows to please do not start them again every time there is a major update?

    Thank you

    :)
     
    RedmondFanatic, Nov 17, 2017
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  2. How can I turn off windows 10 automatic updates. It is messing me up and I keep having to restore.

    Disabling the Windows Update service, followed by a reboot, works very nicely. Check the service once more after the reboot. A pending update might have turned the service back on again.
     
    Frederik Long, Nov 17, 2017
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  3. Forced Updates

    Yes - I've been disabling the service through services.msc application. It keeps turning itself back on, and downloading updates to C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download, of which I've been deleting in volumes.
     
    Tai Long Ye, Nov 17, 2017
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  4. dalchina New Member

    Disabled services have been turned back ON again (after update?)

    In my view, no as one of the features of an upgrade (or upgrade repair install indeed) is to help users by trying to return essential settings to a known state.

    What you might consider doing is finding a way to establish your settings by way of a script or bat file, for example, that reasserts your particular settings on logging in. That way at least it's automated, although you may then need a subsequent restart as well.

    A converse example would be the way such upgrades always disable System Restore.
     
    dalchina, Nov 17, 2017
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  5. Thank you for the answer. These are not essential settings though. The system worked perfectly fine without the Print Spooler running again (to give one example).
    Also, this was not a repair install either, where one would kind of expect the setup to return the system to initial state.
    My concern is that this makes Windows impossible to harden, if they keep restarting features which have been disabled on purpose.

    I mean, once down the path of "Disabled is not really disabled", writing a script to disable them every 5 minutes might not mean anything.
     
    RedmondFanatic, Nov 17, 2017
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  6. dalchina New Member
    You only need to deal with the case of an upgrade.. it's very unlikely anything else would change their state. So setting the state on logon should be sufficient, although as I said, you might then need one more restart.

    A repair install is essentially the same process as an upgrade, hence the term 'in place upgrade repair install'. Some settings are returned to default in both cases.
     
    dalchina, Nov 17, 2017
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  7. Windows recovers essential services, but print spooler sure not being being one them. It is firmly disabled on mine.

    Use the script as mentioned to set services at shutdown/restart.

    Remove services using Sc delete, if you are sure, you will never need them.

    Set restrictions to prevent changes, like for the key (deny access to everyone) Code: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Spooler[/quote]
     
    TairikuOkami, Nov 17, 2017
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  8. Disabled services have been turned back ON again (after update?)

    I think you solved the question. Removing the service + Denying access to the regkey should probably be enough to deter the setup from re-installing them. Thank you!

    To be clear, Print Spooler and all other non-essential services were firmly disabled on my machine too, before the upgrade. I also found out that the Wireless Adapter which used to be disabled, was enabled back by the upgrade. For this one, I can simply use the hardware switch, but I *still* think that upgrades should NOT UNDO my security settings.

    The reason is very simple: when I install a system, I do so with the network cable unplugged, and without important documents on it. When the upgrade happens, it happens *with* the network cable plugged in, *and* with the documents loaded on it. System settings should not be "recovered" by any update.
     
    RedmondFanatic, Apr 4, 2018
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