Windows 10: Do I need a VPN service to connect two remote networks?

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  1. Do I need a VPN service to connect two remote networks?


    I am pretty much a newb. (Had not training in computers but spent a great deal of time on it though.)

    1. It seems like I keep connect two remote networks without using a paid VPN service. But there are some pros to this it appears. First, the router probably would be working overtime to encrypt and decrypt every data that goes back and forth from every device, right?

    Second, when I want to access a website, I need to connect using a VPN service to hide my IP address. So, it looks like it's better to just use a VPN service to connect the two networks? The encryption/decryption is executed by each device on the network?

    Well, how do I go about connecting the two networks that share the same VPN service?

    Thanks in advance.

    Totally irrelevant question but is programming really time consuming even for experts for even simple programs? I mean it takes hours to just do program simple things? And is that why an extensions have all these bugs that seems so simple to fix but it's a lot more complicated than it looks? I thought that the organization was disorganized but now I'm wondering if programming is really really time consuming....

    :)
     
    CerebralFreeze, Dec 19, 2017
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  2. How do I connect to remote desktop?

    Old title: Remote Desktop

    I need to connect to a clients computer to work in accounting software on their computer. Neither of us are on a network. Can I do this with the remote desktop built into windows or do I need to create a VPN? If I need to create a VPN do I do that on
    just my computer, or do I do this on their computer?

    Thanks for any help
     
    DulciStewart, Dec 19, 2017
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  3. Remote Access Connection Manager

    Hi

    My "Remote Access Connection Manager" service wont start on my PC due to "Error 1068: The dependency service or group failed to start."

    I am not able to start the service due to the "Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service" not running. But this service decides to start and stop for some obscure (but I am sure valid) reason. I need to setup a VPN to be able to connect to a remote computer
    and I am not having much luck with the Windows 10 offering. All existing posts refer to versions like Vista and Windows 8 etc, thus the re-post. I have Cisco VPN software installed, Shrewsoft VPN software installed, these are working.

    This networking stuff is the dark arts!
     
    RobinPooley, Dec 19, 2017
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  4. bro67 Win User

    Do I need a VPN service to connect two remote networks?

    Umm yes. If you want them to behave like one network, yes a VPN service is how you would do it. The Synology NAS and others with two ports that allow them to behave like a server, offer onboard VPN like OpenVPN. The only issue is that you need something to let them see the IP if Dynamic, if Sticky Dynamic IP, as long as the equipment does not change for the modem, they will see each other forever without a Dynamic DNS service.
     
    bro67, Dec 19, 2017
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  5. Bro67,

    So, how do I go about it exactly. I actually have a synology NAS. Is there an package I download? I asked my VPN service and they said that only certain VPN services can do what you say but my VPN service doesn't offer it. Is the tech wrong? (I uses openVPN through their VPN servers to access the internet. I don't know if that makes a difference.)

    I also use Dynu DNS to use a domain name to resolve the dynamic DNS.
     
    CerebralFreeze, Dec 23, 2017
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  6. Samuria Win User
    To be clear are you trying to join two networks on the internet or locally?
     
    Samuria, Dec 23, 2017
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  7. I want to do both. I want to connect two remote networks locally but also have the ability for a few computers connect to the internet via a VPN server to be anonymous and secure.
     
    CerebralFreeze, Dec 23, 2017
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  8. bro67 Win User

    Do I need a VPN service to connect two remote networks?

    All of what you want done can be done. The use of using a VPN to connect two remote sites is not something knew and whether you pay a company to maintain and setup the VPN or you use OpenVPN on both ends and connect through a Dynamic DNS host, that is wholly up to you and the choke point will be the Upload speed on both ends, that can drop you down to almost dial-up speeds, depending on what you are sending back and forth. I have seen first hand what happens when you try to go cheap and do not have enough bandwidth for upload and download. You basically kill any chance of anything getting done.
     
    bro67, Dec 25, 2017
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  9. Bro,

    What do you mean by cheap? You mean cheap router, cheap VPN service, or something else? To be honest, I'm barely able to understand what's going on.

    First, I heard you could combine two networks as if they were on one network, for the first time about 2 weeks ago. I thought that was so awesome and I thought you had to do it by using your routers. But, then I read that it makes your network very slow because the router has to encrypt and decrypt for ALL devices.

    And, that a VPN service on one's computer gets around that because your computer does the encrypt and decrypting for only your data. So that's why they exist - for that one device or so I thought. I found out that some VPN services allow you to combine two networks into one virtual network. It's a special feature.

    I'm wondering what are the pros and cons of that.
     
    CerebralFreeze, Dec 26, 2017
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  10. Samuria Win User
    It depends on what you are actually going to do you need nothing to connect to another network you can just map drives. VPN doesn't keep you anonymous that's an illusion depending what you doing
     
    Samuria, Dec 27, 2017
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  11. bro67 Win User
    Not talking anything about hardware. Read what I posted. It is towards the fact that I have worked in State Government and with the work that I did, we needed at least 100mbps per workstation for up and down. That was not when we imaged large PDF files and had to send the files to a remote server, then pull them back and cut the PDF apart as we put them into a Document database server and entered the info. Then we would have to wait for all of that information for the fourth time to get sent back to a remote server. All of that on a single T1 that choked.

    My point is that if you are doing a VPN, you are using a Internet package that is say 50mbps down, 5mbps up, your choke point will be your upload both way, if both ends have the same package.
     
    bro67, Dec 27, 2017
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  12. Wait. I can just map drives from another network onto my computer??! I didn't know you could do that. I wanted to just combine my home network to my parent's network so we are just one happy network. And, I can access their NAS as if it's on my own network; I could map drives and stuff like that.

    But I don't even need to create a virtual network? I could just map drives directly to my computer in a manner that's secure?

    I also wanted to sign up for a VPN service so I could go to certain websites anonymously for legal reasons (nothing illegal). I am doing research for a professor and since these research projects take years, he doesn't want other researchers in the same field to know what kind of data he's searching for as it's always a race to publish first.




     
    CerebralFreeze, Dec 27, 2017
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  13. Do I need a VPN service to connect two remote networks?

    bro,

    I have 150/150 on both networks. Is that good enough?

     
    CerebralFreeze, Dec 27, 2017
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  14. bro67 Win User
    You should be fine as long as both sites have that same speed. You do not surf anonymously when you are using a VPN. It is the biggest fallacy. I use the SmartDNS servers with OpenVPN on my Shield and for Tunnelbroker on my Macbook Air. The only time I use it on my air is if I am watching movies online through a webscraper. On the Shield, all of the time. There are server packages out there that will allow you to map folders and all, just like you would with Windows Server.

    You cannot use the VPN services for connecting two sites, since they are made for surfing online without the hiccups through slow ways through the Internet. If you want to connect two sites, you will have to use OpenVPN.
     
    bro67, Dec 27, 2017
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  15. I read the same thing about anonymity too. But I also read it's possible if you use things like CanvasDefender, StartPage, and Tor. The only problem with that is that my computer starts to run so much slower that it becomes so annoying....but then I read that using some of it does protect you. It depends upon how much time they are willing to spend to to figure out who you are.
     
    CerebralFreeze, Apr 5, 2018
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