Windows 10: Do you deliberately perform restarts to keep file system in order.

Discus and support Do you deliberately perform restarts to keep file system in order. in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; Because W10 has a quick start facility (rather than the full shutdown/reboot of old), I've often wondered whether occasional deliberate restarts are... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by Mooly, May 23, 2016.

  1. Mooly Win User

    Do you deliberately perform restarts to keep file system in order.


    Because W10 has a quick start facility (rather than the full shutdown/reboot of old), I've often wondered whether occasional deliberate restarts are beneficial to keeping the basic file structure in order.

    For example, if I wish to run a full disk clean I always do a restart first, then the clean followed by another restart.

    How about you ? Do you feel this is necessary, or is it something that is just not needed.

    :)
     
    Mooly, May 23, 2016
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  4. CountMike New Member

    Do you deliberately perform restarts to keep file system in order.

    I find it beneficial only after updates (usually mandatory restart) or serious disk cleaning. Also found that after a restart, my favorite disk cleaner "UnCleaner" deletes more unnecessary file remnants.
     
    CountMike, May 23, 2016
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  5. Macco26 Win User
    Just for information: by holding Shift button while clicking Shut-down does the conventional shut-down procedure without the /hybrid state. It's as like as 1st part of a restart, until the PC shuts down completely.
    I sometimes use that when I plan to do something "fresh" in the coming hours.
    Nevertheless, that is what should you use if you are using a multi-OS boot and want to switch to the other OS the next time.
     
    Macco26, May 23, 2016
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  6. Mooly Win User
    Interesting, thanks. I've always felt a restart was beneficial, and seeing Mike mention a more thorough clean-up after doing so helps confirm my suspicion.

    Also, I never knew that about the shutdown procedure (ctrl+shutdown)... thanks.
     
    Mooly, May 23, 2016
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  7. I turn Windows Fast Startup off. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, it's just that I use an SSD so I see no need for fast startup. It can cause more issues than it solves, IMHO. Accessing your BIOS/boot menu can be a PITA with it on.
     
    alphanumeric, May 23, 2016
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  8. Do you deliberately perform restarts to keep file system in order.

    Fast Startup is off for me as well, because I shut down my systems at night or when I leave work. I don't need them running, hibernating, etc. Off should be off.
     
    DeaconFrost, May 23, 2016
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  9. TheSchaft Win User
    I also have Fast Startup turned off, for the same reasons and because with SSDs, my restart time is less than 40 seconds. (Based on a VB script, "Restart-Time" that tracks the time)
     
    TheSchaft, May 23, 2016
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  10. Mooly Win User
    Now I have it turned on and tbh its given zero problems in W10 although I'm wondering if some of the issues I experienced with Acronis in W8.1 could have been down to fast start. It was always 50:50 whether a restore operation running from within Windows would initially load OK or whether it would stall as Acronis rebooted to load. Hmmm...

    No problems in Ten though because I ditched Acronis.
     
    Mooly, May 23, 2016
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  11. I leave fast start up on. I do worry about unnecessary writes to the SSD wearing it out. But seeing as shutdown happens in a matter of seconds I do wonder if it is really writing much to the SSD at all.

    To be honest I cannot really notice the difference between fast startup and a normal restart. Neither method makes things any worse or better. Time to resume windows after BIOS screen is pretty much instantaneous whatever method used.
     
    Scottyboy99, May 23, 2016
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  12. It has its advantages in certain situations. The downside, if your running an SSD, is it constantly writes a hiberfil.sys to your drive. Which aside from the write cycles, could be a large file. If your SSD is on the small side that's space you might want back. You may not even notice any boot up speed increase either. If your using a spinner for your hard drive, it will speed things up for you though. I was hesitant in making my above post. I didn't want to start a it sucks, it rocks, debate.
    I put a shutdown shortcut on my taskbar and Start Screen. It does a C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 00, a true shutdown. When I'm done for the day I just click it. I never leave my PC's running unless I have to. File downloads etc.
     
    alphanumeric, May 23, 2016
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  13. CountMike New Member

    Do you deliberately perform restarts to keep file system in order.

    I have all that junk turned off, BOOT in 17 seconds and this SSD is not a speed demon either.
     
    CountMike, May 23, 2016
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  14. Fast startup on here, Windows 10 Home 64bit, On 24/7, with downloads, updates, on it again as soon as I wake up, Spinner hard drive, no SSD yet, might make changes when get SSD, but don't know, I've been sleeping my Systems for years, as like the speed it wakes up, so I can resume my acitvities.

    Slept my old System
    Newer System
    and might continue once I get my very first SSD, or maybe make changes, not sure yet
     
    AMDMan2016, May 23, 2016
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  15. Mooly Win User
    With fast boot enabled (my default setting) I could be here, typing away, in under 15 seconds from pressing the power button. That's on an SSD. W8.1 on the same PC and with a conventional (but 7200rpm) drive was just about as quick as I recall.

    I know a lot worry over excess write cycles to SSD yet the manufacturers put their reliability over that of traditional drives. If it fails it fails, and then I'd probably be the first to whinge (lol) based on the fact I've never had a drive fail on me (yet). So fingers crossed.
     
    Mooly, May 23, 2016
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