Windows 10: Dual boot for Win 10, Win 7 and Centos.

I would like to install 3 operative system (win 10 - win 7 and centos ) on the same HD in dual boot system.
I would like to keep as much as possible the OS separate (no interference) each other and more stable possible.
What will be the best way to do it?
I should use an external software like "master booter" or GRUB built in the linux distro is good enough?

Thanks

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Can not detect windows 10 after installing centos 7

Hi folks,

I have a problem as i can not see windows boot manager at the grun menu while i satrt my laptop.

-First i had windows 10 & installed centos 7. It was working fine but since i was new to centos i was installed some packages & restricted my access in centos 7, so i have to reinstall it & i did install with same procedure as when i did at the first time.

But since then i can not see my windows 10 in grub menu.

-At first i thought it was due to centos 7 & it might have corrupted grub menu, but i did some google & followed some steps to detect windows, while doing that i did almost everything (even i had to remove centos 7 from grub menu & etc... that leads to reinstalling
centos 7) but i still can not detect windows 10 as windows boot manager.

Lastly i can say that my windows grub menu is corrected somehow. I am not sure how to do it, because i do not want to reinstall any of os now(tbh i am just tired f installing os.)

Note:

To intall & dual boot(windows & linux) i have install windows which came from sony care back in 2013 & it takes more than 5 hours to fully restore windows perfectly as win 8. Then i have to update 8.1 which may leads to master reboot dual boot config & again
update to win 10 that again leads to master boot reset.

I do not want to do this.

Please help me to sort this problem as to detect windows 10 in parallel with centos 7?(I am 99% sure that my windows frub menu is corrupted)

Thanks in advance...

 

Upgrading to Windows 10 on Dual boot Windows 7 with CentOS 6.5

I upgraded from win 7 to 10, and have centos 6.5. After the upgrade, everything still works as set up. I think this is the first version of window NOT to remove grub and make windows boot "at all costs". My centos is still the primary boot on grub. I have
a normal bios and MBR, not UEFI. It is a 4 year old i5 with 8GB ram.

Win 10 seems to be a bit faster than 7, although I admit, I use Centos more than windows. The upgrade took a few hours of prep to download what it needed, and a little over an hour to install.

 

You might want to use something like this:
The rEFInd Boot Manager

 

Thank you Topgundcp for this suggestion.

I believe you have used this utility as I would like to ask some questions.

I am going to set it up on win 10 OS first..... following the instructions by Command prompt.

As I am not very expert to set it up I would like to ask some questions below:

1) Once I have installed the 3 OS on 3 the different partitions, at the boot REFIND will recognize all OS creating automatically the 3 OS options?
2) In a windows environment how can i set up the "conf file" ( i opened it with notepad - i lost) as for example the OS name, time, icon, background...etc...?
3) As the interface seems very smart and full of options, do I need to lock the the "all extra options" so that no-body could mess around? How?

Thanks

 

1. Yes it will. It will also automatically find almost any boot loader on any external USB/DVD you happen to plug in. I have found it finds Windows, MacOS, CentOS (and most other distros) automatically - the only time I had to make a manual boot stanza (i.e. change the refind.conf file as an OS was not found) was for Arch.

2. If you want to edit refind.conf file then you need to mount ESP first. You can then use sudo nano from CentOS or Notepad.exe (run as administrator) from Windows. Both work fine for me.

As you are installing from Windows, I would copy the /EFI/refind/refind.conf.sample to /EFI/refind/refind.conf and then edit at that point. This is step 8 in the installation notes: Installing rEFInd Manually Using Windows.

If you want to do it later just mount ESP and edit it again.

3. Don't give users admin account/sudo access obviously. If you do they can mount esp and change conf file to anything.
You certainly might want to remove some of the options on the second line - these are governed by the showtools parameter in the refind.conf file. I would uncomment it (so as not to take default options) and then remove most of them except for recovery/shutdown. You don't want people changing partition scheme or entering EFI shell really. For example change Code: #showtools shell, gdisk, memtest, mok_tool, apple_recovery, windows_recovery, about, hidden_tags, reboot, exit, firmware, fwupdate[/quote] to
Code: showtools windows_recovery, about, reboot, exit[/quote]
The refind.conf file is very well documented with internal comments but you could have a read here The rEFInd Boot Manager: Configuring the Boot Manager.

What you might want to do during install is when you have ESP mounted (you have to do this as part of installing it from Windows), delete EFI drivers/architecture you don't use - it makes it load quicker. This is described in the installation notes mentioned above. It doesn't save a lot of time but if you don't need 32 bit or ReiserFS you may as well delete them. I must admit I ignored this step for years though and I only do it for tidiness rather than performance.

Another thing to be aware of is upgrading Windows (every 6 months now it seems) you'll probably have to reset your NVRAM to point back to rEFInd as Windows upgrade likes to reset it to Windows boot manager. This is done by: bcdedit /set "{bootmgr}" path \EFI\refind\refind_x64.efi

It is one of the steps for the manual Windows install described in the link above but you may have to repeat it. OSX upgrades also like to grab the boot manager entry but Linux (in my experience) doesn't.

 

Thanks for all your suggestions and help.
So have I to re-set refind as the default EFI boot program every 6 months?

I have opened refind.conf.sample with notepad++ to look around (as it will be renamed = refind.conf) and I found few setting active most of the options are deselected (#) . Are active only the time at 20 sec and at the end of it some general OS icon configurations, not more.
I had some difficulty to understand how edit it as for example add a different background , new icons, remove written part and refind logo...etc.?
Somethig like that:



Could you please help me with some example to have an idea in how to edit it as I believe once it will be copied and renamed in ESP it can be edited only by command, isn't it? If I can view some example probably I could understand how it works.

Is there, when refind boot, at the first page (where the user can choose what OS want to load) an option/s the user can select -a part of the OS icons- to messing around?

Thanks

 

Probably. But this applies to any boot manager if you use Windows or MacOS as their upgrade procedure overwrites the default boot manager held in NVRAM to their own. Really don't worry about it - if you stop booting into rEFInd and boot direct into Windows then set it back.

If you look above the commented line is a description of the default. If you want to change the default then remove the # (# means it is a comment) and edit it (or copy it below). For example see this bit - I've changed the default for options: Code: # Default is shell,memtest,gdisk,apple_recovery,windows_recovery,mok_tool,about,shutdown,reboot,firmware,fwupdate # #showtools shell, gdisk, memtest, mok_tool, apple_recovery, windows_recovery, about, reboot, exit, firmware, fwupdate showtools gdisk, apple_recovery, windows_recovery, about, reboot, exit[/quote]

Mine looks like this which is pretty boring:





The easiest way to change the icons is to replace the default (for example EFI/refind/icons/os_centos.png) with your own one (that is all I've ever done - I used my own for Windows 10 before rEFInd caught up).





There is a whole section on theming (changing background etc) here if you are interested The rEFInd Boot Manager: Theming rEFInd

I don't do themeing so my refind.conf is pretty much the same as refind.conf.sample. If you get stuck though I'm more than happy to try what you are attempting and see if I can get it to work.

Nope. At any time you can mount the ESP and edit refind.conf or anything else in the ESP.

You can use Notepad or Notepad++ as long as you start them as administrator (right click and "run as administrator").

Like this - Open cmd (or powershell) as administrator and mount the ESP using mountvol S: /s - this will mount the system partition at drive letter S. You will not see it in file explorer as it doesn't run as administrator. There is a solution to that here but you don't need it.

Then open Notepad++ as administrator and click on open.

Then browse to S:\EFI\refind\refind.conf and you can edit it.

I don't understand, sorry. If you mean are there options to enter EFI shell or repartition your drive then, by default, yes. You can remove these in the conf file as mentioned above.