Windows 10: Extremely Slow Boot Time (3 min)

Discus and support Extremely Slow Boot Time (3 min) in Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance to solve the problem; Hi, I recently purchased a laptop with windows 10 x64. The product specifications are these: Star Wars™ Special Edition Notebook - 15-an001na (ENERGY... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance' started by taoelle, May 26, 2017.

  1. taoelle Win User

    Extremely Slow Boot Time (3 min)


    Hi, I recently purchased a laptop with windows 10 x64. The product specifications are these: Star Wars™ Special Edition Notebook - 15-an001na (ENERGY STAR) Product Specifications | HP® Customer Support


    It's a HP laptop. The boot up time close to 3 minutes goes like this:
    • 40 seconds: the HP logo screen with a loading circle
    • then ~2 minutes: black/empty screen with a loading circle
    • then comes the log in screen with the time and date
    • and after that 20 seconds of the Welcome screen with the loading circle

    I also mention that at least 5 minutes after that the disk is at 100%

    I tried to disable some services and tasks but it didn't make much of a difference, Glary Utilities tells me there are 171 programs, services, etc running at startup.

    I attach a list of them though I know it's huge so I don't ask for someone to go through all of them, but is there a list of what startup programs (9), scheduled tasks (69), plug ins (6), application services (40) and windows services (47) are absolutely mandatory so I can disable the rest? The numbers in brackets refer to the current amount of said services.

    Thank you for any help!

    :)
     
    taoelle, May 26, 2017
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  2. MoggyW Win User

    Slow boot (>3 min) after installing after fall creators update.

    Thanks for your response, but it's unresponsive. I have no problem with 'PC performance', just problems with booting. I should have detailed everything I tried so far I guess, but the list would be very long, so I tried to describe how far I've gotten and
    zero in as much as possible on the problem.

    Yesterday I did a clean install, so there were few if any 'unnecessary startup programs during the boot process' and the Firewall was on (I don't think that the Firewall is involved in the pre Session Init phase of booting, is it?). The latest virus definitions
    were installed, and I updated all the drivers for which an update was available. All the Windows updates were installed and so I'm now on Version 1709 OS Build 16299.251, which rules out 'operating system is not updated,' I think. The boot times are still
    unacceptable.

    I tried to use Sleep mode to maybe shorten the time I have to wait to start working on my laptop. When I tried to wake the machine, the screen turned a solid color and after a while the blue screen appeared saying something went wrong, and a reboot is necessary,
    meaning the standard 3+ min wait. Sleep mode seems to be the only thing not working after the thing finally boots up.

    Could you respond to my question about the messages I got using the WPA software? Is there a way to get someone to look at the ETL files I generated using the Windows Performance Recorder? Is it theoretically possible to identify the source of the Invalid
    Event in the error message I included above, using the information in the message (Warning) itself?
     
    MoggyW, May 26, 2017
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  3. MoggyW Win User
    Slow boot (>3 min) after installing after fall creators update.

    Thanks for your reply. It is useful to know that my laptop, an HP Pavilion 17t-ab200 was on HP's list of computers compatible with 1709. My windows build is 16299.248. I ran the Update troubleshooter again, but it still can't any problems. As far as I can
    see, there are no problems with the updater and I have all the latest updates. If the delay occurs during the pre Session Init phase, it seems possible that the problem is with one of the hardware drivers. Is it possible that the Invalid Event in the 'Warning'
    messages above is related to a hardware driver, and if so how I can I figure out which is the culprit?
     
    MoggyW, May 26, 2017
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  4. Mooly Win User

    Extremely Slow Boot Time (3 min)

    Core i5, 6Gb RAM. That should be pretty rapid.

    A standard clean W10 installation should be booting up in round 15 seconds, even with a traditional (non solid state drive). Has it been that bad from day one out of the box condition ? I'm wondering if you just have so much 'bloatware' running (all the unwanted stuff that gets included with new PC's) that it is bogging things down.

    Non of the standard Windows services and so on should be affecting this. Something else is going on imo.
     
    Mooly, May 26, 2017
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  5. WOT
    WOT Win User
    I would recommend the following actions:

    Selectively uninstall any HP bloatware you don't want or need.

    Disable all non-essential services (for a test). Here's how:

    Go to Start> Run> (type) msconfig.exe

    A new window opens. Select the Services tab:

    Extremely Slow Boot Time (3 min) [​IMG]


    Now, tic the box to hide all MS services:

    Extremely Slow Boot Time (3 min) [​IMG]


    Now review the non-MS services that remain.

    From here you can start to disable services and reboot periodically to see if there is any improvement.
    (You can always re-enable them if an issues arises)

    However, in the end, you may end up leaving many of them permanently disabled.

    Hope this helps,
     
  6. TairikuOkami, May 26, 2017
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  7. WOT
    WOT Win User
    Did I miss something team? The OP never mentioned doing a clean install. He just wants help cleaning up his existing installation. Now, I agree that a clean install is always the best cure for problems like this; however, everyone is not up to that task right after buying a new laptop. Just sayin...
     
  8. Helmut Win User

    Extremely Slow Boot Time (3 min)

    It is doing updates, nothing unusual. 3 min is perfectly normal. Then when the desktop appears then update installs can take sometime, 5 mins is nothing, often those can 30 min or so. You would expect this on a new Laptop indeed for many days.

    I would not fiddle about at this point, things will get better.

    A considered approach is much the best course of action, after a couple of weeks then take a more detailed look. i.e. when all updates have been done.

    Leap in haste and you will just mess up a properly working new Laptop.
     
    Helmut, May 26, 2017
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  9. taoelle Win User
    First of all, thank you guys!

    Mooly, the speed was always like this. The Creator's Update seems to have made it slightly worse though. The fast boot option in Power does work, gratefully. It reduces almost to zero the black loading screen (the one between the HP logo one and the log in screen). It is the restarts that are the most rage inducingly slow.

    Hey WOT, thanks for the explained instructions. I disabled all the non-Microsoft services and there was a slight improvement in the black loading screen phase, from almost 2 minutes to 1:30. The rest was the same.

    Tairiku, the BIOS update thing isn't offered through the HP assistant program and I'm not sure I want to upgrade the BIOS, I don't even know how to do that... the HP assistant doesn't offer anything else to update besides some new Bluetooth and LAN drivers.

    The things is, Helmut, it's gotten slighly worse (not by much though) after the updates, not better. And it's up to date today.
     
    taoelle, May 26, 2017
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  10. Mooly Win User
    I only mentioned the clean install thing to give an idea of what is achievable *Smile

    Without going down that route then I think I would first do a factory restore to bring it all back to day one condition and without installing anything, just get a feel for what it is like in that state.

    Once you start altering and disabling a load of stuff then you can hit problems if you can't remember or undo previously altered configurations.
     
    Mooly, May 26, 2017
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  11. WOT
    WOT Win User
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