Windows 10: GRC leak test

Hello
I run Windows 10 1607 with Defender set to default because I do not understand the advanced settings, and MBAM.
I just failed the GRC leak test.
Should I add Zone alarm?
TY
Peter

:)

 

Symbian Belle

Judging from the patterns of this leaked versions

It looks like all those leaked version are tested and marked ok Beta releases.....Next leak should be for X7 I would consider it as Christmas gift from Nokia

 

WINDOWS 10

Use a useful tool (not software) by Steve Gibson at GRC website called "never10" It is listed under "Freeware" tab-ultiilies.

GRC | Steve Gibson's WebZone:  

 

Holy mackerel! LeakTest hasn't been updated since 2005 (I thought it was old, but I had no idea...). I just downloaded and ran it with my Norton based machine (NIS 2016) and it failed, too. I'm not sure this is a legitimate concern, but it probably bears further research. It will be interesting to see what other members of the community have to say about this. At present, I'm not concerned, but maybe we'll both learn something important here!
thanks for posting,
--Ed--

PS: One more lthing: you don't want to run multiple firewalls on the same machine. If you end up using a different firewall, you'll want to turn off the Windows Firewall if it remains active (most of the time when you install a different firewall, it will turn off the built-in firewall automatically).

 

I feel better to know I am not the only one who failed but still concerned. I run only one firewall at a time and now it is just Defender. I do not know how to set the advanced settings and use the default.
I use the Comcast router as mine is old.

I too hope we get help.

 

For the record, Windows Firewall does not block outbound by default, the easiest way to use someting like:
Firewall Software by GlassWire (it provides a great GUI for WF) or a simpler Windows Firewall Control.
But ZoneAlarm is a great firewall, actually the only one left. There is Evorim and Comodo, though ... .

GRC leak test is a bit more advanced, than just a simple outbound call as you can see on the screen, it is not using its own exe to call out. I believe, it is using an injection to a legitimate process instead. The best description is this:

 

Yep, and we still have no outbound security from Windows Firewall (and never will, I suspect).

Agreed. *Thumbs

 

Kaspersky Internet Security 2017 also fails - is this important?

 

@ TairikuOkami Thank you very much for the referrals. I will see what works for me as I am not an advanced user, just fair.


P.S. I was just thinking, I have Comcast and use their router which is a firewall, correct?
I use to use my router and bridge the IP one till it became too old.
So if this is true the leak test got through Windows firewall and the ISP router's.
Please correct me.
Now I wonder if I should disable Windows and use one recommended as I have read about them and there are conflicts with 1607 or are difficult to use..
I was readding about RC 's leak test and it appears you should not worry about faailing it. Read about it to see why it is not reliable.
!!Moderator, I am having trouble with indentations as the fonts want to go their own way. I have to keep clicking on the on the block to the right of underline above. I am using Chrome.

Peter

 

The GRC ShieldsUP! test is more recent.

 

Two different things. ShieldsUP! is a port scanner, while LeakTest checks for a specific vulnerability, which allows malicious programs to phone home.

 

I believe Windows firewall does not by default provide outbound protection because it would annoy inexperienced users, who are after all the majority. When the computer first went into use there would be a large number of questions if a particular program should be granted access. The typical user would either click "Yes" for everything or eventually turn outbound protection off. Either way you have an annoyed user and no outbound protection.

Edit: For several years I used ZoneAlarm which did have outbound protection with Windows 2000. The questions were quite annoying at first, and I was not a novice user and understood the need for them.

 

Because I am not a skilled user, I ;
1- tried Defender and scanning offline [recommended]worked with the laptop but not the desktop -any guess why? I am concerned that it is either on my end or a glitch.
It just says it is broken now and try again later.
2- I think simrick was saying not to use a program that broadcasts outgoing. If so, which would you recommend for the medium skilled user to learn? I think Miller's comment about outgoing disturbing and confusing the novice is accurate. This is indeed a puzzle if Defender will not function as it should offline and even then it is broadcasting outgoing.

 

Windows Defender and Windows Firewall are two different things.
You should try GlassWire as suggested on page 1, see what you think. Else, ZoneAlarm, and process through the initial setup notifications.

If you're having problems with Defender, might want to try running SFC /SCANNOW to make sure your system files are in good shape.
SFC Command - Run in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
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I don't know why I commingled Windows firewall with Defender but it says something about my skills or lack of them.
I did run SFC right after Defender would not scan offline and all is OK with SFC. However, the MS forum said there is an issue with Defender's inability to scan offline and asked each member to >hub feedback.
I have read that many firewalls are having trouble with 1607 and ZA was included. I cannot say I know this for a fact but did see it in a few articles.
I saw a video of GlassWire and it could be a bit too much for me - not sure.
I have Norton's Security Suite available as a Comcast customer.
I remember years ago when it was a resource hog but I think they have improved. I think it would provide a firewall.
I also had McAfee once. I used the uninstallers for each as they became a liability but that was about 6-7 years ago. I don't know now. Any comments about Norton's Suite Free?
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