Windows 10: Hard drive failure

All mechanical drives have one thing in common. They all have sealed air and moisture tight chambers for the platters, main spindle, armature, heads while the motor may or may not be inside that sealed up portion of the drive. Moisture can only get in once the seal has either been borked in some fashion or has hardened up and split over time from constant heat up and cool off and heat up and cool down times. Besides a PC World blog you may want to dig a little deeper into things like seeing what manufacturers themselves advise. One site that covers a wider range of things can be looked over at Safe HDD Temperature Range to Avoid Hard Disk Failure

And the temps can not only effect mechanical drives but SSDs as well as since overheating things can see memory ruined as an other note. SSDs have to have a higher threshold put into effect compared to what you see for desktop memory. Flash drives and other removable depends on quality there since flash drives can take a bit more abuse! being tossed around dropped on hard surfaces, etc. Another older reference on drive temps and cooling seen at Temperature Limits and Drive Cooling indicates:

 

I just got me a Crucial 240GB ssd and will install it later today. Hopefully it will solve my problems and will not brake down after 2 years.
After that, I will try to get my data of the old drive. As I mentioned before, the MFT is corrupt but I thing the data is there.

Sven

 

If you have a local data recovery service provided by a local repair shop that would be one pay a few option to get what can be saved from the drive before seeing it tossed. You simply provide the blank dvds or another spare drive to see things recovered to.

Personally I end up not only storing thing on separate drives but seem to end up sharing a good number of files between machines here. If one system goes down I could still recover just about anything on short notice!

 

Late to the discussion but relevant to others reading. I never use WD BLUE drives for any thing. BLACK only.

P.S. Congrats on your SSD. You will never go back to a spinner again.*Smile

 

I will need another drive, and it's going to be a big one because of my home movies. 1 t is big enough, but now you're talking $300.00, so I might go for a spinner on that one.

Thanks to all for your input

Sven

 

WD Blue replaced the WD Green Power line being the "energy efficient" power saver series there. For laptops and desktops like All in Ones or other small builds with small supplies is where you would add one of those on as a storage medium.

For the Black edition series the two OS drives(10 Pro, 7 Ultimate) are still seeing a pair of 1tb size there while the two new larger storage drives added in recently are close but not quite in the WD RE classification. Western Digital 2TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0GbCCTV DVR - Newegg.com

A pair of those replaced the pair of 1tb Black edition Sata 3 drives when those 5yrs.old now saw one having a problem taking forever to access. They had been mounted as SCSI devices to add to the performance.

Those drives in that link there only go for $65- while presently out of stock. Where are you generally ordering from? You can adjust the filters at newegg for a good look at lower prices for most everything except a couple of the latest additions. 7200 RPM, 1.2TB - 2TB, Western Digital, Desktop Internal Hard Drives, Hard Drives, Components - Newegg.com

For something $300 or more I would be looking at a pair of these here if not more to build a home server. WD Black 6TB Performance series

 

After I put the new drive in, I wanted to restore from an image, but that did not work. I think it has something to do with the fact that the new drive is only 240GB and the old drive was 500GB. so I did a clean install of windows and now I am installing all my software again. probably will take me the better part of Saturday to get it where I want it. I did noticed that the drive is faster. there is no delay after I click on something it pops right in.
All in all I am happy with it. Now I have to ponder if I want to spend the money on a 1TB SSD as my second drive for all my movies and pictures. Every thing is going fine, so I will mark this solved

Thanks again for all your input
Sven

 

if I remember right you adding these drive in a notebook is so I would look at the 2 TB 7200 RPM 2.5" 9 drives. SSD for data drives are really a waste of money as the times the extra speed would be useful are very seldom. and 2 TB SSD are still in the $800 range

 

Clintlgm,
no the drives are for my desktop.
but regardless, I tend to agree with you about the 1 TB drive. I probably will go with a Spinner on that.
Sven

 

Follow up Question:

I have almost all my programs reinstalled and now trying to get my data of the olds drive. I plugged it in and it shows in the bios and it shows when I boot, but it does not show in windows. what am I missing
Sven

 

Found the drive.
Sven

 

When you add in a new drive as well as readd an old one back in the Disk Management tool is the place to be! I think you found that one out fast enough! *Smile

As for why the image wouldn't go on you have to see it to the same size if not a larger drive where you could then expand the restoration a bit not too much however to fill the larger drive in. You wouldn't expand a 500gb drive's image to fill in a 2tb drive for sure! A 600-750gb while stretching things a bit for a 1-1.2tb drive would be a yes on the other hand. As a rule here any new drive immediately sees a clean install automatically.

The images are kept for restoration on the source drive unless that has to be replaced for some reason like a fail on someone else's machine while I will simply slap a fresh install on and go through all the motions again to insure the best results. But you should be able to recover just about everything but the need to reinstall the drivers, updates, programs again rather quickly on a new drive.

As for using an SSD for long term storage that kind of defeats the purpose for paying out the high price tag when you can grab an even larger drive for storage then the 1tb model you already have! A 6tb split into 3 large volumes or using the GPT method can handle a lot of data and still costs a lot less then a 1tb SSD!

 

Hi,

Sorry, just had to respond to this:

Back in the days if you wanted reliability you picked scsi drives. Ordinary HD drives IDE or SATA don't come close.
Nowadays any consumer SSD far surpasses any mechanical drive really.
Sure, they're more expensive but I'd only buy a mechanical drive if I'd wanted a 8Tb one for a video library or something like that. A drive you'd only use once in awhile. IOW, huge storage devices that don't spin all day.

Other than that any SSD will beat a mechanical drive's MBTF hands down nowadays. Just look at the specs.
90% of the top servers are running off SSDs 24/7 nowadays, they're way faster than any scsi spinner, more reliable and last so much longer. Not to mention they're a lot greener too. A lot.

Anyhow, sorry about the interference....

There's a lot of misinformation floating around or so it seems.

Cheers, *Wink

EDIT: Wd Raptor? Really? They're just high rotation ( say 10 or 15 RPM 2.5 Inch disks attached to cooling ribs
They're noisy and SLOW by today's standards, even compared to a regular 3.5 inch spinner really.
Lowish capacity too and are these around nowadays ?
Don't think so. Most of the time the stuff we, consumers get is old tech server stuff anyway....

Anything based on semi-conductors will often outlast anything with mechanical parts now. By a large margin.
Same goes for the controller parts, be that passive or active parts. Trust me, you can easily build SSD's (or other stuff) now that could last a 100 years and beyond. Easy.

Respectfully. *Wink

 

Speaking of Raptor type drives when the 13gb barrier was still being broken and borked?! at first it wasn't WD that got the bad rep since the Raptors were the rush of the XP days back then! The Maxtor 16gb drives is what I had heard the bad news about! "Those d_ _ drives flew apart on me!" was one complaint heard by someone is far above average! I was told to stick with WD back then and so far that advise has held true for every build since whether spinner or not!

As for the initial problems with how many writes that plus the still high price tags being seen is why many elected to stick with the mechanical type while it was mostly those with gaming rigs looking at custom installing everything onto larger what? Spinners while only seeing the OS on the new SSD! If you pay a visit to the other SevenForums site you will find any number of SSD threads going back 6yr.s or so when they were first being looked at.

As for going with any SSD that will eventually come when they are not overpriced outrageously and offer larger capacities which are now being seen between the 1tb - 2tb size drives but for as a much as a new build can be put together for! I got 4tb total for what? $140 compared to $800 for 2tb model? I'll pass! I'm the "Skeptical Inquirer" as to why pay out that much when the present builds are working fine with the mechanical drives?