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  1. High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11


    I'm running into an issue where something is using large parts of RAM. I've been unable to locate the cause via task manager. Can someone help me understand the RAMmap log files? I've also included poolmon.exe which I also need help understanding. If you have other suggestions for me to try please let me know as well.Issue: Something is causing a memory leak in RAM.Steps to reproduce: I've been unable to figure out what software/driver is causing this issue, it appears to occur gradually over several days.Solutions attempted:Open Task Manager and sort by memory used. Close all programs as much

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    TheBoundlessSky, Jan 31, 2023
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  2. bumgarb42 Win User

    Extremely High RAM utilization, high Paged Pool

    The issue started in mid-February when I received multiple warnings and critical alerts from my RMM software for several PCs I administer - the RMMs settings for RAM alerts are a warning at 85% and critical at 90%.
    All of these systems have been deployed for over 2 years and I've never had any of them give high memory alerts before. Now, of the 12 PCs in the office, 10 PCs are going to critical alert with the RAM use slowly creeping up over a 4+ day period. The users are complaining of the PCs becoming slow, lagging, or unresponsive. A reboot tends to make the PC usable again until the RAM gets critical again.


    Image 1 is RMM metrics from a users PC showing RAM (purple line) before the issues started, and after February 12th, the RAM creeping to +90% after the issues started
    Image 2 is a current image of the RMM metrics for the last month


    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324743d1616799818t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-cjw_tmp_1.png


    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324742d1616799846t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-cjw_tmp_2.png



    To make the issue more obvious, here is an image from our conference room Intel NUC, that is idle most of the time. I know that the spikes are the right side are while the PC was mostly idle and I was rebooting the PC to get the RAM to drop:

    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324744d1616799901t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-conf_tmp_1.png


    To help you understand some of the things I have tried, here are samples of the alerts I got from my RMM software:

    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324745d1616799971t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-conf_alert_1.png


    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324746d1616799971t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-cjw_alert_1.png


    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324747d1616799971t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-jgw_alert_1.png



    As I mentioned above, I have 10 PCs, some are idle, having this issue. I have 2 actively used PCs that are NOT having the issue. In trying to troubleshoot, I have basically compared the idle systems with the issue to the 2 active user PCs that are not having the issue.
    Here are images from Process Explorer, Task Manager and RAMMAP from an idle system that is having the issue:

    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 748d1616800736t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-20210326_dwa_idle_processexplorer.png


    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324749d1616800736t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-20210326_dwa_idle_rammap.png


    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 750d1616800736t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-20210326_dwa_idle_taskmanager_ram.png


    Initially seeing epsecurityservice at the top of Process Explorer and in the RMM alert, I thought BitDefender Endpoint Security (GravityZone) was the issue. I applied a “disable” policy to BitDefender on an idle system and the issue did seem to stop after a reboot.

    HOWEVER, seeing svchost in the list, I also tried a Clean Boot, but disabled everything EXCEPT BitDefender and my RMM software so I could continue to connect to the system.

    Again, the issue seemed to stop with a Clean Boot and BitDefender still enabled.

    So I compared Process Explorer metrics for a system with the issue and one that doesn’t have the issue and found that epsecurityservice.exe had roughly the same RAM use between the two systems… and the numbers were not increasing steadily over time.
    This made me think BitDefender isn’t the issue but perhaps something it uses in the OS.

    So I then looked at RAMMAP and Task Manager, and that is when I saw the extremely high Paged Pool on the idle system and a relatively small Paged Pool on the system in use. So I checked all the systems with the issue and they all have extremely high paged pools, even on systems that have been rebooted and left idle for days.

    Here are screenshots of for one of my systems that is not having the RAM issue:

    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324751d1616800994t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-20210326_lgs_processexplorer.png


    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324752d1616800994t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-20210326_lgs_rammap.png


    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324753d1616800994t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-20210326_lgs_taskmanager_ram.png


    And just for a comparison reference, here is what my RMM metrics for RAM look like on one of my PCs that doesn't have the issue:

    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324755d1616801054t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-lgs_tmp_1.png



    Here is a quick rundown of these systems configurations which is making it hard to determine if it is a driver issue since 4 different configurations are having the issue:

    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11 324757d1616802014t-extremely-high-ram-utilization-high-paged-pool-mfsok_pc_config_brief.png



    I'm not sure whether the huge Page Pool is okay, but it doesn't seem normal when compared to how my RAM utilization is for the 2 systems that are not having any issues.

    If anyone has suggestions on what else I should try to resolve this, I’d greatly appreciate it.

    If you want more information, please give me step-by-step simply to save time – I don’t want to waste any time assuming I know what you want and giving you the wrong info.

    Thanks in advance for the help!!
     
    bumgarb42, Jan 31, 2023
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    Greg Carmack - Windows MVP 2010-2020, Jan 31, 2023
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  4. bumgarb42 Win User

    High RAM utilization / leak Windows 11

    Extremely High RAM utilization, high Paged Pool

    I just found it in the Bitdefender Endpoint Security Tools Version 6.6.25.362 release notes (windows)

    "The Firewall driver generated a memory leak in EPSecurityService on Windows machines."
    Bitdefender Endpoint Security Tools Version 6.6.25.362 Release Notes (Windows)

    Thanks again!

    - - - Updated - - -

    I am very disappointed to report that the memory leak was reintroduced about 7 hours after it was resolved during a BitDefender security engine update. I have alerted BitDefender to the issue which will hopefully see it resolved sooner than the previous leak.



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    bumgarb42, Jan 31, 2023
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