Windows 10: How is Windows 10 networking supposed to work?

Discus and support How is Windows 10 networking supposed to work? in Windows 10 Network and Sharing to solve the problem; According to this thread on technet, Stop using SMB1 | Storage at Microsoft, Microsoft has disabled SMBv1 via update and that the "Windows Explorer... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Network and Sharing' started by sewing1243, Mar 17, 2018.

  1. How is Windows 10 networking supposed to work?


    According to this thread on technet, Stop using SMB1 | Storage at Microsoft, Microsoft has disabled SMBv1 via update and that the "Windows Explorer Network (aka “Network Neighborhood”)" doesn't function properly anymore, "This legacy protocol is long deprecated, doesn’t route, and has limited security. Because it cannot function without SMB1, it is removed at the same time."

    So I have to ask how is a small home LAN supposed to work and where is the description and instructions of how to set it up?

    :)
     
    sewing1243, Mar 17, 2018
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  2. Can't connect to network after Windows 10 upgrade

    You know, it's not helpful to suggest re-downloading the drivers, when you cannot connect to the network. Catch 22 there.

    I, and many others, had absolutely no network or Internet connectivity after the supposed upgrade to Windows 10. Just how are we supposed to download anything?
     
    HillsideHolistic, Mar 17, 2018
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  3. BulldogXX Win User
    How am I supposed to activate windows 10 ? There is also error code 0xc004f050 if I insert my windows 7 OEM key.

    When you replace a motherboard or a CPU you have created a new computer for the purposes of activation. A new computer requires a new license. Here are your choices:

    1- Buy a Windows 10 license and install Windows 10.

    2- Reinstall Windows 7, upgrade it to SP1, and upgrade to Windows 10. (Your Windows 7 key alone won't help you.)

    3- Call Microsoft product activation and ask them to make an exception for you.
     
    BulldogXX, Mar 17, 2018
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  4. How is Windows 10 networking supposed to work?

    You are supposed to use SMB3 now as much as possible, but sometimes only option is SMB1, since many older devices does not function properly, if at all, over SMB2 and 3.

    There are really no special instructions for the newer protocols. SMB is SMB and either it works or it does not, as long as both the "server" and the client use the same SMB level/standard. I know a lot of Linux based clients (including Android and apps) and software are having issues connecting properly to Windows 10 created shares.

    There however exist a few Windows command where you can check what SMB version you have activated among other things. But now I can not remember nor find the exact commands for you. Sorry for that. Let us hope someone with a better memory can help provide us with this information.

    So what kind of share do you want to create and what will the clients be?
     
    slicendice, Mar 17, 2018
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  5. Bree New Member
    Not disabled, more that it's turned off by default. I need SMB1 because I have legacy devices that only support SMB1 on their shares. You can turn it back on in Windows Features. You might also want to turn off Automatic Removal. *Smile

    *Arrow Turn Windows Features On or Off in Windows 10

    You only need the SMB 1.0/CIFS Client for Windows 10 to connect to a share on another machine, you'll need the Server if it is Windows 10 that is doing the sharing.


    How is Windows 10 networking supposed to work? [​IMG]
     
  6. RickC Win User
    I think you may mean the PowerShell cmdlet:
    Code: Get-SmbConnection[/quote]
    This will check the actual version of SMB in use.

    Many people appear to be having problems with the recent auto-removal of SMB1.

    For example, if MS have removed SMB1 (shown as a below):

    How is Windows 10 networking supposed to work? [​IMG]

    ... then the cmdlet result will be null (shown as b above):

    For a more helpful cmdlet which checks SMB1 specifically, you can use:
    Code: (Get-WindowsOptionalFeature -FeatureName SMB1Protocol -Online).State[/quote] ... which will produce a more verbose result (shown as c below):

    How is Windows 10 networking supposed to work? [​IMG]


    I have devices (e.g. Linux) that need SMB1 so, to check quickly, I wrap this in an AutoHotkey script:
    Code: ; Prompt to 'Run as Admin', i.e. show UAC dialog If Not A_IsAdmin { Run *RunAs "%A_ScriptFullPath%" ; Requires v1.0.92.01+ ExitApp } clipboard= ; Clear the clipboard psScript = ( (Get-WindowsOptionalFeature -FeatureName SMB1Protocol -Online).State | clip ) RunWait PowerShell.exe -Command %psScript%,, hide MsgBox, 64, Check SMB1, SMB1 is %clipboard% ExitApp[/quote]
    If MS have removed SMB1 then this results in:

    How is Windows 10 networking supposed to work? [​IMG]


    *********************************************************************************
    Note: If, like me, you want to stop MS from automatically removing SMB1 then you can use:
    Code: Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName SMB1Protocol-Deprecation -NoRestart[/quote]
    I wrap this in AutoHotkey as follows (so I don't even have to open an admin PowerShell commandline window:
    Code: ; Prompt to 'Run as Admin', i.e. show UAC dialog If Not A_IsAdmin { Run *RunAs "%A_ScriptFullPath%" ; Requires v1.0.92.01+ ExitApp } psScript = ( Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName SMB1Protocol-Deprecation -NoRestart ) RunWait PowerShell.exe -Command %psScript%,, hide MsgBox, 64, SMB1 Automatic Removal, Done! The feature has been removed. ExitApp[/quote]
    Hope this helps...
     
    RickC, Mar 19, 2018
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  7. @RickC

    YES! Exactly that. Thanks for your input.
     
    slicendice, Apr 5, 2018
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