Windows 10: How SSDs work and what you can do to make yours last longer

Discus and support How SSDs work and what you can do to make yours last longer in Windows 10 News to solve the problem; CNET editor Dong Ngo explains how SSDs work and offers a few useful tips on how to make them last a long, long time. Do this to increase your SSD's... Discussion in 'Windows 10 News' started by Borg 386, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. Borg 386 Win User

    How SSDs work and what you can do to make yours last longer


    Do this to increase your SSD's lifespan! - CNET

    :)
     
    Borg 386, Apr 19, 2017
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  2. what do you do to make USB plug in speakers work on laptop toshiba C55t series?

    my operating system is Windows 10
     
    scottieskibble, Apr 19, 2017
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  3. what do you do to make USB plug in speakers work on laptop toshiba C55t series?

    Hello Scott,

    Thank you for posting your concern in Microsoft Community and welcome to the Windows 10 Family.

    To be able to assist you better, provide us a few more details on the below questions.

    • Do you face any issues with other USB devices as well?
    • Is it a laptop or a desktop model you are referring to?
    • Did you check if the issue is related to audio settings in Windows?

    Now, follow the below recommended methods and see if it helps to resolve the issue.

    Method 1:

    Follow these steps to run the windows in built troubleshooter:

    a) Write Troubleshooting in the search box and hit enter.

    b) Click on Troubleshooting
    tab.

    c) Click on view all option on the upper left corner.

    d) Select the Hardware and Device
    options from the list.

    e) Click Next to run the Hardware and Device
    Troubleshooter.

    Method 2:

    Please follow the below steps and check if it helps.

    1. Right click
    Start, and then click Control Panel.

    2. Select System, and then click on
    Device Manager.

    Note If Control Panel is in Classic View, double-click
    System, and then click Device Manager.

    If you are prompted for an administrator password or for a confirmation, type the password, or click
    Allow.

    3. In Device Manager, double click to expand "Universal Serial Bus controllers", right click on the
    Host Controller,

    From the context menu that appears, click on the following and check if it helps to resolve the issue.

    A) Update Driver Software

    B) Uninstall

    • Update Driver Software to update the driver of the selected USB controller. On the displayed box, click
      Search automatically for updated driver software to make the Windows to search for the updated driver from the Internet.
    • Uninstall to uninstall the driver.Then, restart your computer and Windows will reinstall all USB controllers automatically.

      Check if at all there is an exclamation mark along the driver, it suggests issues with the driver installed.
    4. Repeat the step 2 to uninstall all items under "Universal Serial Bus controllers".

    If you still face the same issue then you may check for the updated USB device drivers using windows update.

    Install and Update drivers in Windows 10

    Link:
    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/wiki/insider_wintp-insider_devices/how-to-install-and-update-drivers-in-windows-10/a97bbbd1-9973-4d66-9a5b-291300006293


    As an additional resource, please refer to the below links and check if it helps.

    Install USB 3.0 and other USB devices

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/install-usb-3-usb-devices

    Note: Links relevant to Windows 8.1 also applies to Windows 10.

    Hope the above information was helpful. If you need further information, feel free to write to us and we would be happy to help you.

    Thank You.
     
    Sayan_Ghosh, Apr 19, 2017
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  4. dencal Win User

    How SSDs work and what you can do to make yours last longer

    This article is self contradicting..... I quote two sentences below....
    SSDs still fall short in a few places compared to normal hard drives, in particular regarding their write endurance.
    That said, if you use an SSD the way you would a hard drive, chances are it will still last longer than a regular hard drive would.

    IMO it would take some doing to write 50gb daily for 12 years which is considered to be the quoted guaranteed lifecycle off an SSD.
     
    dencal, Apr 19, 2017
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  5. pparks1 Win User
    I have had an SSD in my old destop now for about 8 years. It's still fine. I don't do anything heroic to preserve it. It's next to useless now as it's only 80GB.

    Almost everybody will outgrow capacity long before their exhaust write endurance.
     
    pparks1, Apr 19, 2017
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  6. Ztruker Win User
    The Samsung 250GB EVO I have was installed in January of 2013. So far it has 10.2TB of data written to it in over 4 years. I do nothing special to accommodate it, just use it. At this rate it would take around 88 years to wear it out (if my math is even close *Smile ).
     
    Ztruker, Apr 20, 2017
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  7. cereberus Win User
    That article is basically a waste of time - modern ssds last far longer than "first generation" ssds.

    I had one in my old laptop for five years and it had only deteriorated by around 3%. My latest ssd is 18 months old and not even 1% deterioration.

    In reality, you can expect to replace a PC every five to say eight years. It is far more likely the electronic interface will fail on a modern ssd than actually wear out the add from a write perspective.
     
    cereberus, Apr 20, 2017
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  8. Cliff S New Member

    How SSDs work and what you can do to make yours last longer

    by Dong Ngo/CNET
    Another wannbe hardware geek touting to old 1st generation SSD tweaks*Sad

    Just hook the darn thing in, and install Windows.

    If you are cloning or re-imaging from another disk to a new SSD, then run winsat formal in an admin command prompt, reboot. and now Windows will automatically set the system for SSD use.

    Leave page file, prefetch & superfetch alone.
    Don’t Waste Time Optimizing Your SSD, Windows Knows What Its Doing
     
    Cliff S, Apr 20, 2017
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  9. LMiller7 Win User
    This article has a tells the story of an SSD endurance test:
    http://techreport.com/review/24841/i...nce-experiment

    SSDs are not like fragile snowflakes that must be treated with tender care. They are robust devices that are really difficult to kill with writes. In the tests they survived far more writes than the manufacturers specifications.

    Most of what the CNET article says about the pagefile (except how to configure it) is wrong. Leave it on system managed unless you have a need to do otherwise. The performance characteristics of an SSD make it an almost perfect match for the typical usage patterns of the pagefile. On the other hand, those of a conventional drive could hardly be more wrong. The only legitimate reason to put the pagefile on a conventional drive is if this is necessary to conserve space on the SSD. But that should only be a last resort.

    Use an SSD as you would a conventional drive. It will likely fail from other causes long before writes become a factor. But more likely the drive will need to be replaced because it is just too small.
     
    LMiller7, Apr 20, 2017
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  10. brummyfan Win User
    *Ditto*Ditto
     
    brummyfan, Apr 20, 2017
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  11. CountMike New Member
    Both of my SSDs are older than this computer. In the mean time I had to change two HHDs because they have started to deteriorate badly, pending sector move. One was a very respectable 2TB IBM/Hitachi and another a 1TB WD Black.
     
    CountMike, Apr 20, 2017
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  12. chummy Win User
    I dont think cheap SSD's last that longer, for people like me which take cheaper SSD's avoid too much writes i fell a good idea. My first SSD last 4 months before write speed become to 0KB/s and i need to RMA it, reading speed was fine but write just stoped working and was not possible to move or install anything into SSD. That was 2 years ago. The one i received back is the one running right now and since i got it i made some tweaks to try preserve writes on it. Now it has around 12TB total host writes for 2 years running. Maybe i was just unlucky with the first one but i dont trust this cheap SSD's.


    The biggest disk writers i find in my system was firefox cache and TEMP directories which writes above 30GB per day with my usage, so i always move both of them outside my SSD.

    PS: Just to say that 12TB writes is with all that time preserving excessive writes in SSD and keeping biggest write applications out of it.
     
    chummy, Apr 20, 2017
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  13. Omidz 10 Win User

    How SSDs work and what you can do to make yours last longer

    Three months ago I replaced the 1Tb HDD in my laptop with a 240Gb Kingston HyperX savage SSD by clonning via the macrium reflect. Since I have read this article before, so I turned off some services, pagefile and also hibernation. In the case of hibernation there is no need of it when using ssd since the startup is fast enough. And for the pagefile, by turning it off I could free up about 8Gb on my SSD and it is important for me because I have some heavy softwares and I need some space on my storage. I have no problem at all with this configuration except one thing. I couldn't play the free forza motor sport 6 on windows 10 because of low memory and I think that if I had pagefile on then maybe I could play the game because I have the minimum hardware required to run the game.
     
    Omidz 10, Apr 20, 2017
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  14. cereberus Win User
    Your reasons for disabling pagefile and hibernation have nothing to do with the original post which is about wear and tear on an SSD. Your reasons are simply that your SSD is not big enough for your needs.
     
    cereberus, Apr 20, 2017
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  15. Cliff S New Member
    One thing one might want to do, if you have re-imaged from a HDD to SSD, or cloned, is check if your partitions are properly aligned:

    • Hit the Windows key or icon.
    • Type System Information
    • Go to Components > Storage > Disks.

    • How SSDs work and what you can do to make yours last longer [​IMG]
    • Look for your drive and find the "Partition Starting Offset". If this number is divisible by 4096 (that is, if dividing it by 4096 reveals a whole number and not a decimal), your partition is correctly aligned.

    • How SSDs work and what you can do to make yours last longer [​IMG]
     
    Cliff S, Apr 20, 2017
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