Windows 10: How To Tell Proper W10 Home Retail From OEM/I?

Discus and support How To Tell Proper W10 Home Retail From OEM/I? in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; I have found a very good price for an English International Windows 10 Home, supposadly KW9-00017. However, the seller seems to be under the impression... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by Tommygunn, Oct 5, 2017.

  1. Tommygunn Win User

    How To Tell Proper W10 Home Retail From OEM/I?


    I have found a very good price for an English International Windows 10 Home, supposadly KW9-00017. However, the seller seems to be under the impression that it might be OEM/OEI which is why it is about 40 cheaper than usual.
    What specific questions can I ask him to determine if it is a proper, transferable retail version of the English Int. OS or some one shot OEM/OEI?
    Is the packaging gatefold(docs, USB, key code etc) for the retail and a grubby envelope for the OEM/I version? If it has KW9-00017 on the box does that pin it down as a retail English International transferable copy?

    The ad also states that it is a USB copy, if that helps at all, and the photo is of a generic gatefold W10 Home box.

    Any ideas?
    Tom.

    :)
     
    Tommygunn, Oct 5, 2017
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  2. ArcOneTwo Win User

    Windows 10 upgrade from Windows 7 failed (Samsung Q330)

    Same issue here. Tried installing W10 Home and W10 Pro (OEM and Retail licenses) on the Q330 with no luck. Tried installing from Windows Update and from the Media Creation Tool. Hope that Microsoft replies soon.
     
    ArcOneTwo, Oct 5, 2017
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  3. transfer my retail digital license to a new machine void of any OS

    I want to transfer my W10 Pro retail version
    that I purchased from an authorized reseller - originally purchased as 8.1 and now has a digital license after upgrading to W10 - to a new machine , one w/o any OS. I had partitioned my drive to accommodate
    W 10 Home OEM and the Pro version. My primary partition on this machine is W10 Home OEM.
     
    RobertArnow, Oct 5, 2017
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  4. Tommygunn Win User

    How To Tell Proper W10 Home Retail From OEM/I?

    I forgot to add, and this might pin it down, the only code showing on the advert is this: x19-92030-03.
    Can anyone decipher it and determine exactly what language and type of W10 Home it is?

    Tom.
     
    Tommygunn, Oct 5, 2017
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  5. cereberus Win User
    Ask him to use check product key option of showkeyplus and show you results blanking out all but last five digits of key by clicking on output of key.
     
    cereberus, Oct 5, 2017
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  6. Tommygunn Win User
    I just did five minutes finding out what 'showkeyplus' is. Ok, a method to confirm and validate the key.

    However, if this is new retail version, or any version, won´t it be poly sealed and I suppose the seller will be unwilling to open it to check the code validity/type.

    Tom.
     
    Tommygunn, Oct 5, 2017
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  7. Winuser Win User
    You are correct about the box being sealed. If it was open I wouldn't buy it. As Far as I know Showkey would show the key of the OS that is running.
     
    Winuser, Oct 5, 2017
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  8. How To Tell Proper W10 Home Retail From OEM/I?

    showkey also has a check product key function. You click that, enter a key manually, and it will tell you what Edition etc its for.
    ShowKeyPlus
     
    alphanumeric, Oct 5, 2017
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  9. Winuser Win User
    Wouldn't they have to open the package to get the product key or would that be listed on the outside?
     
    Winuser, Oct 5, 2017
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  10. lx07 Win User
    Well yes. You have to open it. Otherwise you could just use a photo of the box from the internet.

    You can't check an imaginary key. If I was selling a key I certainly wouldn't tell you the key so you could "check it".

    Are you suggesting they ask for the key to "check" it. And then give it back and promise not to use it or tell any one? How about you post all your MSDN keys so we all can "check" them?

    Hmmm.

    OEM (or system builder) license isn't transferable. According to the EULA (which may or may not be enforceable depending where you live) you can only use it for a new build PC you intend to sell to someone else. No-one cares about that.

    If you want a transferable license you need to get a full retail - which are slightly (about 40) more expensive.

    If I was the OP I'd just get a cheap Windows 7 license and use that.
     
  11. Winuser Win User
    My point is that if the package is open the license may be in use by someone else. I would never buy licensed software if the package was already opened.
     
    Winuser, Oct 6, 2017
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  12. I was just responding to the, "As Far as I know Showkey would show the key of the OS that is running." Just pointing out that , if you have access to the key, you can check it with showkey. That's all. You can type any key you want into that box and verify it. Not everybody knows that. As mentioned, not much good for a shrink wrapped key. It is handy for those that buy those E-Bay Keys, if you know what I mean. *Wink
     
    alphanumeric, Oct 6, 2017
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  13. cereberus Win User

    How To Tell Proper W10 Home Retail From OEM/I?

    I suggest seller could check, blank out keys except last five digits and send report to buyer. If seller is legit, he would do that. Then buyer buys licence, and if last five digits do not match, OP can complain accordingly. Chance of seller having a different key with same last five digits is 36*36*36*36*36 = 60,466,176 to 1.
     
    cereberus, Oct 6, 2017
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  14. Trust_No1 Win User
    If the retailer can't answer your question, then I (that's just me) probably wouldn't purchase it.

    But, if you are looking for Windows 10 Home, and are already running 7 or 8. I believe you can still get Windows 10 free from Microsoft.
     
    Trust_No1, Oct 6, 2017
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  15. Tommygunn Win User
    Ok, I've decided to ditch this seller because of the questions I asked and more importantly the answers I got, read below. Apologies for the English I've just chucked them through a translator.

    Me to him:
    ´I just found your website and the Ebay listing while searching for Windows 10 Home English version (KW9-00017 Eng Int).
    Please do not take offence but you can confirm that this is an original product (x19-92030-03) sealed with a retail license key (not OEM) and USB.
    The reason I ask is because the price is so incredibly low.´


    His responce:
    ´No, I'm not offended, the question is absolutely lawful and intelligent.
    In my opinion this is an OEM license, then redone because I do not explain otherwise how my supplier can give me a price that will allow me to sell it at the price we sell it.
    On the Microsoft site costs about 150 euros, there is a justification there must be me is OEM if you want a perfect retail version not to buy.´

    I then sent him a follow up email to ask if he could send me a photo of the actual item in question and to confirm that it has KW9-00017 somewhere on the box - I've received no reply.

    So, obviously something fishy going on here; either out and out lie about what the item actually is or some dodgy open retail pack with some sort of OEM nonsence stuck in it. At the same time him trying to feign ignorance when we damn well know, that he knows, what he has.

    In any case I'm buying from elsewhere.

    Cheers,
    Tom.
     
    Tommygunn, Apr 4, 2018
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