Windows 10: How would you hope to see W10 arrive for the average user ?

These are just my thoughts and nothing else *Smile

So this is something I have been thinking about. With W10 being 'free' to qualifying systems (W7/8/8.1) I can't help but think about how MS will get the message across and... more importantly how it will work out and also the options for when it doesn't work as expected.

I wonder if the first initial notification might be something along the 'Browser Choice' type of update we all got some time back perhaps giving the option of a compatibility check as a first step. What worries me are the problems that will happen when an average user perhaps does upgrade and then hits a problem such as no network connectivity or some device such as a printer fails to operate correctly. The permutations for what could happen are endless.

Could there be a 'roll back' to undo any upgrade for those that have issues for instance.

How do you think it will be rolled out ?

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Different download speeds in Users

We have four users on our W10 PC. On three of the profiles we average download speeds of 8.0Mbps but my wife's profile can only reach speeds of 2.0Mbps. Why such a big difference and how can I fix it?

 

windows 10 video and audio lag(stutter)

You have to be kidding! I appreciate your effort to help Kevin right away with your answer, but asking the average user (Kevin is clearly way above average) to fix their own problem like this is wildly unreasonable.

I would think Microsoft would be broadcasting that an update is now available to fix this problem. Do you realize how many users are simply going back to earlier versions...or don't even know how to do that?!?

-Scott

 

I can see it just coming as a windows update, with the latest updates preparing for 10 I can see it being automatically installed if auto updates is turned on, so any problems it should just rollback from before the update, it would then just download in the background a prompt for restart to set up
After installing, if any issue just uninstall the update from windows update

I cant remember how the 8.1 update came out, but I think this was via the store, so this is not an option for people using win 7 (don't think so anyway)

What I would like to see is, have a prompt shortly before it gets released, asking if it should be installed automatically, perhaps have this pop up a few times so people are aware, after a few messages about it then give an option for people to opt out, if opting out it just hides the update so it can be got back later if wanted

not sure on clean install, personally I would say this would be via manually downloading as it is not something I could see most people wanting (average user)

 

hoping they release a ISO so can clean install

 

From what I recall, there was information on the release path that an ISO would be available for Win10.

 

I would prefer an ISO but it isn't that important.

 

I would want an ISO and the ability to clean install. I'm not a fan of in place upgrades.

It's irrelevant to me since I don't have plans to upgrade any of my machines anyway, I will wait until I build or buy a new machine with Win 10.

 

Going up a bit, if you are worrying about compatibility which led to your question of rollback and how it will be rolled out, first, you should try Win 10. Take advantage of the Technical Preview to answer your compatiblity questions first hand. It will be both rolled out as an update for existing 7 & 8 but there will also be an option to do a clean install with ISO. These upgrade methods depend on the users' knowledge with computers. Of course the online upgrade is a no brainer.
So far, there is a rollback option on Tech Preview. But I am not sure if this will also be available on official release.

 

I mentioned the 'roll back' because I'm trying to think how the average user is going to go on. I personally know folk that can just about remember how to work with a photo or how to send an email... imagine taking the familiar (and I'm thinking more W7 here) interface from them and them suddenly being faced with W10. That's the reality for many.

Speaking for myself, I'm sure I'll try the in place upgrade just for the heck of it, but only because I know how to 100% undo anything I try. The folk on forums like this are the exception, most know how to go about solving problems, in fact many (myself included) simply see a problem as a challenge whereas the average person at home certainly doesn't.

 

If I can jump in...
Why even worry about a rollback. One should always make a system image before ANY major updates/system changes and that goes specially for an upgrade. The only software more important than a good AV is a system imager. On a fresh install that's my first thing I install, but I seems most "average users" don't think of this, because if they did, the amount of threads in all the Windows Forums would be much smaller.

I would think for the average user an ISO upgrade would be perfect or if he wanted a clean install . All the would have to do is download -> unzip to a thumb drive -> click setup.exe. Another advantage would be a shorter download time and Microsoft could embed the key to it, so if the user needed to reinstall.

I've experimented with different install methods, multiple times, with Win10, and found the fastest method for a complete setup, to get to a desktop with all my software, was the ISO upgrade method.

 

When you upgrade your existing Win 7 or 8 to Win 10 tech Preview, you will have a boot up option (like dual boot) to Rollback.







As for Win 7-like interface, it shouldn't be a problem if you install Classic Shell on Windows 10.

 

For the average user? MS should come out and inform people of their options, and make them crystal clear, instead of sneaking updates into peoples' W7 and W8/8.1 installs. Anybody outside of the Insider Program probably has no idea about Windows 10 at the moment while their PCs are being prepped for the update.

 

I just cannot imagine that MS would be "sneaking in" the W10 update. They would be facing a lot of law suits. I am sure some of those millions of underemployed lawyers would love to specialize in that.

They must give the users the choice. There can be many reasons why someone wants to keep the current OS. Many 'basic' users get discombobulated when only the icons get shuffled on their desktop. Imagine their looks when they have W10 in lieu of their familiar W7 on one bright Monday morning.

 

I suspect most home users have little or no idea about system images. That brings an interesting point though. I use Acronis and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Acronis TI2014 that I use isn't compatible in some way with W10. Thinking like an average user, I wouldn't be impressed if that happened after I had upgraded.

How many know what an ISO image is and what to do with one. I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic.

Now I haven't seen that screen before (I last played with the TP as a clean install). So how does/would that work in practice if you say upgraded W7 to W10 ? Do you have two parallel operating systems installed such that either can be selected (I know what dual boot is but that isn't dual boot) or is it a 'use once option' to undo the changes. There must be a huge resource overhead (storage space) to do that.

I think they should too. Perhaps in the form of an update that directs them to some publicity material or demos of what is to come.