Windows 10: HUGE %WINDIR%\Installer folder

Discus and support HUGE %WINDIR%\Installer folder in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; My wife's mini-ITX PC was upgraded from 7 to 8 to 8.1 to 10. The installer directory has over 36 GB of stuff in it (mostly smaller installer files for... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by EdTittel, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. EdTittel Win User

    HUGE %WINDIR%\Installer folder


    My wife's mini-ITX PC was upgraded from 7 to 8 to 8.1 to 10. The installer directory has over 36 GB of stuff in it (mostly smaller installer files for what looks like OS components, some dating back to 2013). I see from online research that it's not a good idea to prune this directory. My recent clean install machines have between 1 and 2 GB of stuff in that same directory. I think that means it's time for a clean install on this PC. What advice or insight can the community offer on this subject?
    The machine is running well (it's a light-duty machine only that the boss uses primarily for surfing the web and reading/writing email). Am I just obsessing over nothing here? Again, advice and insight much-appreciated.
    --Ed--

    :)
     
    EdTittel, Oct 11, 2016
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  2. Can't uninstall Software Updater or Upgrage

    Hi superfly89

    You don't say whether Xp or Vista but you get this sort of message if there are insufficient privileges on the %windir%\Installer folder, or the inability of the Windows Installer service to create the %windir%\Installer folder.
     
    scoobyman---01, Oct 11, 2016
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  3. WIndows Installer folder size is too huge (32 GB).

    The Winsxs folder is not a normal folder and the size shown is deceptive. You should not try to delete files from it or move it.

    Try the steps here: Cleaning the Windows\Installer folder
     
    293a3c4d-30fd-4eea-9279-6d8867de5823, Oct 11, 2016
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  4. dalchina New Member

    HUGE %WINDIR%\Installer folder

    Hi, these are installer packages which
    a. support e.g. 'Change' options in the Control Panel, Programs and Features, for programs you've installed.
    b. are for lower level system utilities.

    Ideally if a program is installed, the corresponding msi would be deleted, but this doesn't always seem to happen. Also, I note some msi's exist for installed programs, but a Change option isn't offered. Hmm.

    If you were to organise the folder by size, and hover your mouse over the largest 10, for example, or even double click one to launch it to see what it is if unsure, you could then see if the program is still installed. If not, you could delete the msi.

    I just found I'd 2 copies of the same version of Macrium, 3 versions of a program I no longer have installed at about 70Mb each.
     
    dalchina, Oct 11, 2016
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  5. EdTittel Win User
    Thanks Dalchina: I had noticed quite a bit of redundancy. I assume that means I can selectively prune out older/obsolete versions. Some stuff in there goes back to early 2013, and has been superseded by newer versions of the same application or utility. I always keep an image backup handy, so I'll try some selective experimentation and report back here. Thanks for the input and insight. Always enjoy your prolific posts here on the forums.
    Best wishes,
    --Ed--
     
    EdTittel, Oct 11, 2016
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  6. cereberus Win User
    Install patchcleaner - best tool I know for clearing this sort of stuff - safer than using ccleaner.
     
    cereberus, Oct 12, 2016
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  7. eLPuSHeR Win User
    eLPuSHeR, Oct 12, 2016
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  8. dalchina New Member

    HUGE %WINDIR%\Installer folder

    HUGE %WINDIR%\Installer folder [​IMG]

    A remarkably elegant error message... nice!
     
    dalchina, Oct 12, 2016
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  9. EdTittel Win User
    Ran it on my machine, and it found 146 MB of orphaned files in 1.4 GB of "stuff." No elegant error messages here, tho -- nice call, Dalchina! -- now running on the boss's PC. It's going to take a while because of the 36.5 GB of "stuff" in that folder. Will report back on those results when it's complete ... 15 minutes later: 30.43 GB removable/relocatable. Opted for the safer relocation to the 1 TB external HDD attached to her PC. Now moving ...


    HUGE %WINDIR%\Installer folder [​IMG]


    Took another 15 minutes to relocate everything. Now, WinDirStat reports that C:\Windows\Installer is down from 36.5 GB to a relatively svelte 6.1 GB. Great stuff!

    Thanks Cerberus! I'll be digging in more deeply and writing about this for my Windows Admin toolbox series soon, I believe!

    Everything said, this is exactly why I posted a plea for help and insight here. I knew there had to be a way to deal with this, and indeed there was. Thanks again to one and all.

    Best wishes,
    --Ed--
     
    EdTittel, Oct 12, 2016
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  10. cereberus Win User
    I never bother copying files to another drive personally as I always make regular image backups. I have never had a problem just deleting them anyway but that is me. Of course backing up with tool is safer.
     
    cereberus, Oct 12, 2016
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  11. eLPuSHeR Win User
    I usually delete them too, but I think it's a smart move to move them instead if you have the inclination/time. As Cereberus, I usually do regular backups too.
     
    eLPuSHeR, Oct 13, 2016
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  12. EdTittel Win User
    I'll endorse the general sentiment for backups. I run file history to capture Library folders every 6 hours, and use Macrium Reflect (free) to capture nightly incrementals and weekly full/image backups. I also copy my weekly into the cloud (OneDrive, thanks to a 1+TB allocation from various promos and an Office 365 subscription) for extra redundancy. When it comes to backup, I believe you can never have too many, nor keep them in too many places.
    Thanks again to everyone for all the helpful suggestions and input.
    --Ed--
     
    EdTittel, Oct 13, 2016
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  13. pparks1 Win User

    HUGE %WINDIR%\Installer folder

    I highly recommend PatchCleaner. I have been using it for quite a while to clean up that directory. My wife's laptop is about 3 years old and has a 128GB SSD in it. It was down to 10GB free. Ran TreeSizeFree and found that her Windows directory was about 66GB.

    Fired up Patch cleaner and found that the Windows installer directory was nearly 45GB. Ran patchcleaner, found 36GB worth of orphaned files. I always just hit delete. I used to move the files, but after never having experienced a need to move it back, I quit doing that and simply hit delete now.

    PATCHCLEANER is great.
     
    pparks1, Jan 24, 2017
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  14. Rose W Win User
    "Post #7- Opted for the safer relocation to the 1 TB external HDD attached to her PC. Now moving ."
    How did you get the input for the external drive?
    I did this routine but I downloaded a portable app version. The output was firmly into my drive E where I have the MyDocs linked. I tried to use another drive by browsing but it wouldn't pop into the output.
    There was 6Gb of stuff from past years.
     
    Rose W, Jan 25, 2017
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  15. EdTittel Win User
    Maybe that's a difference between the regular (installed) and portable versions? I use only the installed version and it lets me browse the file system (and external volumes) just fine on all of my (8) PCs.
    HTH,
    --Ed--
     
    EdTittel, Jan 25, 2017
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