Windows 10: install size Update vs Clean

Discus and support install size Update vs Clean in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; Running on a 128GB SSD card, the Windows directory is around 50 GB's. Not much room left for anything else. Windows 8 was significantly less. After... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by iamthedood, May 5, 2015.

  1. install size Update vs Clean


    Running on a 128GB SSD card, the Windows directory is around 50 GB's. Not much room left for anything else. Windows 8 was significantly less.

    After every update I delete the $Windows~BT directory and the Windows.old directory to free up about 8GB's.. but it's not enough.

    Would a clean install remove a lot of the junk in the Windows directory or is that always going to be the size?

    :)
     
    iamthedood, May 5, 2015
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  2. Upgrade Vs Clean install.

    Hi Baha,

    Thank you for posting in Microsoft Community.

    I understand that you have a few doubts regarding Windows 10 upgrade. Let me help you.

    If you are selecting Upgrade keeping all old applications and files
    your programs such as Word, Excel, Outlook (Office) etc are preserved.

    If you are choosing Upgrade and delete all application and files
    all your data and application will be gone.

    Please be aware that you cannot use the free upgrade offer to perform a
    Clean Installon first attempt. You must first upgrade from the qualifying version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 (whether you do it through
    Windows Update
    or using the .ISO file). Ensure the upgrade is completed successfully and then ensure that it is activated. You can then proceed to do a clean install by using recovery media or using the Reset function in Start > Settings >
    Update & Security > Recovery > Reset this PC (Get Started).

    For further reference, Frequently Asked Questions: Windows 10

    I hope the information helps. If you have any further queries, please feel free to contact us again. We will be happy to assist you further.

    Thank you.
     
    Aswin_Anand, May 5, 2015
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  3. Upgrade Vs Clean install.

    Greetings:

    Question: what is the percentage of speed improvement?

    I understand I have 3 options moving from Windows 7 to windows 10,

    • Upgrade keeping all old applications and files
    • Upgrade and delete all application and files
    • Clean install by downloading an ISO file and using that to install windows 10 from scratch.

    Should I expect any technical challenges?

    I use primarily MS office and web browsing.

    Thanks
     
    Baha Habashy, May 5, 2015
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  4. BunnyJ New Member

    install size Update vs Clean

    I'm going to take a stab at this and say you should save some space by doing a clean install. If I recall I used much less space when I did a clean install yesterday with build 10074.

    HTH
    Jeff
     
    BunnyJ, May 5, 2015
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  5. Kari Win User
    What on earth do you have in your Windows folder? I have Build 10074 installed on three machines, this laptop I am using at the moment has the biggest Windows folder, about 21 GB.


    install size Update vs Clean [​IMG]
     
    Kari, May 5, 2015
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  6. topgundcp Win User
    C:\Windows usually ~ 20GB:

    install size Update vs Clean [​IMG]



    • Delete everything in C:\Windows\Panther, those files were used during installation and no longer needed
    • Delete everything under C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download. Windows stores all downloaded updates.
      NOTE: Don't delete while Windows Updates is running.
    • From Admin Command prompt, run: dism /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup to reduce the size of WinSxS folder
     
    topgundcp, May 5, 2015
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  7. Roger Win User
    What's the size of your Windows SxS folder?
     
    Roger, May 5, 2015
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  8. Vladimir Win User

    install size Update vs Clean

    Build 10102 (upgrade from 10056)
    Windows folder size ~ 15GB (after deletion of unused system files)

    install size Update vs Clean [​IMG]


    *Smile
     
    Vladimir, May 5, 2015
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  9. Roger Win User
    Ahhh, seems like a good time to research DISM.exe and all the benefits it provides!
    I posted a few days ago that I whittled 10GB off my Win8.1 Windows SxS folder using DISM.
    Brink has posted information about using it but I think the info you're looking for was posted back in the Win7 forum.
    DISM will analyze SxS folder, advise whether it should be cleaned, and then provide a means to clean it.
    Mine dropped from 16GB to 6GB.............. YMMV......
     
    Roger, May 5, 2015
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  10. Dude Win User
    Close to 15Gb for me too. I agree with all above, clean install is the best option.
     
  11. Roger Win User
    I've violated the clean install rule when there was no ISO available (10041?) but you can still save 9 or10GB of space by cleaning your Win SxS folder. Did you analyze yours to see if it can be reduced?
     
    Roger, May 5, 2015
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  12. Vladimir Win User
    Nice. I'll research a bit about it too.

    *Smile
     
    Vladimir, May 5, 2015
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  13. Roger Win User

    install size Update vs Clean

    topguncp, you're a nice feller *Smile yep....
    smart as a whip.........................*chuckle............
    jump right in there with an answer............. yep
    and good answers too *Biggrin
    BUT:
    "QUOTE=topgundcp;234874]C:\Windows usually ~ 20GB"
    My Win8.1 machine Windows folder is 16.0GB
    my Win10/64 machine Windows folder is 12.5GB
    my Win10/32 machine is 8.28GB
    SO: Your 20GB is no where near usual *Wink
    and:
    Now that you posted the instructions on cleaning it, why don't you post the rest of the instructions on how to determine if it should be cleaned *Huh
    If I run your command to clean it and there's no change I'll be back with "didn't work!", what do I do now????*Huh
    just a thought............................*Think
     
    Roger, May 5, 2015
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  14. topgundcp Win User
    I said ~20GB but actually it is 17.5GB to be exact.
    It is very easy to explain. Here's is my desktop Windows10X64 build 10102 with a few applications installed and yes it is 12.3 GB:

    install size Update vs Clean [​IMG]

    install size Update vs Clean [​IMG]


    Now the question is How many applications software did you install in yours ? Don't forget when you install third party software, majority of DLL's are also put in C:\Windows, C:\Windows\system32.

    The screen shot I've shown in previous post are fully functional Windows 10 Build 10074, same desktop, with tons of third party software + MS Office installed:

    install size Update vs Clean [​IMG]


    So The difference between 17.5GB from my previous post and 12.3 GB are from the third party software, not from Windows.

    Hope this clears up the confusion !!! *Smile
     
    topgundcp, Apr 4, 2018
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