Windows 10: Internet Explorer 11 now most used web browser in World

Discus and support Internet Explorer 11 now most used web browser in World in Windows 10 News to solve the problem; You can install Safari on Windows. Safari 5.1.7 for Windows Safari 5.1.7 is ancient. Almost 3 years old. Apple officially discontinued it a long time... Discussion in 'Windows 10 News' started by Brink, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. Mystere Win User

    Internet Explorer 11 now most used web browser in World


    Safari 5.1.7 is ancient. Almost 3 years old. Apple officially discontinued it a long time ago. Current Safari is 8.something I think. That thing is probably so full of security holes, it would be swiss cheese.

    Nobody should be using that, not even developers... Chrome will give you a much better representation than this will as the Webkit versions will be much closer.
     
    Mystere, Nov 1, 2014
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  2. Safari 5.1.7 is ancient. Almost 3 years old. Apple officially discontinued it a long time ago. Current Safari is 8.something I think. That thing is probably so full of security holes, it would be swiss cheese.

    Nobody should be using that, not even developers... Chrome will give you a much better representation than this will as the Webkit versions will be much closer. I didn't say it was a good idea. *Biggrin

    I wouldn't install any Apple software on a Windows PC, given Apple's track record with QuickTime and Safari issues.

    I had to install Safari on some PCs where I was working (~6 years ago).

    I definitely haven't installed it on my PC.
    I've assumed that Chrome would be close enough because of Webkit (as you have suggested). *Smile

    However just because something is a bad idea, it doesn't mean that people aren't doing it.
     
    lehnerus2000, Nov 1, 2014
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  3. Kari Win User
    Safari 5.1.7 is ancient. Almost 3 years old. Apple officially discontinued it a long time ago. Current Safari is 8.something I think. That thing is probably so full of security holes, it would be swiss cheese.

    Nobody should be using that, not even developers... Chrome will give you a much better representation than this will as the Webkit versions will be much closer. What has WebKit to do with this? Chrome used WebKit rendering engine until version 27, starting with version 28 it has used Blink.
     
  4. groze Win User

    Internet Explorer 11 now most used web browser in World

    Google chrome version that I am using is 38.0.2125.111 m
    chrome://chrome/
    chrome://credits/
    (if you are using Chrome)
    Google Chrome is made possible by the Chromium open source project and other open source software.

    There is no blink in the Credits. There is webkit though

    WebKit
    WebKit is an open source web browser engine. WebKit is also the name of the OS X system framework version of the engine that's used by Safari, Dashboard, Mail, and many other OS X applications
     
    groze, Nov 1, 2014
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  5. groze Win User
    What get me is why people use Google Chrome, if you are logged in to google and/or have apps link to your account they know who you are and where you go unless you go to https sites. It is possible to disable all this to prevent tracking but it is a pain. I use Seamonkey for example.
     
    groze, Nov 1, 2014
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  6. Kari Win User
    It never stops amazing me how little facts geeks need to be sure they are right.

    WebKit - Wikipedia:
    Google Chrome - Wikipedia:
    Blink (web engine) - Wikipedia:
    Although a fork of WebKit, the deveklopers make it quite clear Blink is not based on WebKit. It has its origins in one component of of WebKit, the WebCore, but each new version of Chrome brings it further from its origins.

    I repeat: Chrome is not using Webkit rendering engine, has not used since version 27.
     
  7. pparks1 Win User
    History over the past 15 years.
     
    pparks1, Nov 1, 2014
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  8. Tews Win User

    Internet Explorer 11 now most used web browser in World

    NB: This is my opinion!

    I am 63 years old, and I couldn't give whoot if Google is spying on me or not. I have been using Chrome for so long, I couldn't tell you when I made the change, but I know I was using some iteration of Netscape if that helps. I keep running into posts where the user posts like he is some type of CIA agent, and has secrets that must be protected at all costs!! Please, Google does not want, nor need whatever you have on your drives. Now the NSA is another story, best saved for another day!!

    That's my story and I'm sticking to it!! *Wink
     
  9. groze Win User
    Thank you *Smile for calling me a Geek Kari, but I am not that smart. You might be right. I have the latest standard release version in Windows 10 and Windows 7. However, chrome still list in the credits that it uses webkit. Then the developers need to get on that to remove webkit and replace it with blink if you are correct. I call that a bug. There might be others in the credits that no longer in use, that also needs to be removed. Sorry for the long post.


    Here is a list of credits from Google Chrome install.

    David M. Gay's floating point routines
    dynamic annotations
    Netscape Portable Runtime (NSPR)
    Paul Hsieh's SuperFastHash
    google-glog's symbolization library
    valgrind
    xdg-mime
    xdg-user-dirs
    Breakpad, An open-source multi-platform crash reporting system
    BSDiff
    XZ Utils
    Google code support upload script
    ChromeVox
    mock4js
    Mozilla Personal Security Manager
    Network Security Services (NSS)
    native client
    fancy_urllib
    newlib-extras
    pthreads-win32
    open-vcdiff
    WebKit
    Accessibility Audit library, from Accessibility Developer Tools
    Android Crazy Linker
    etc1
    Almost Native Graphics Layer Engine
    Darwin
    Apple sample code
    Android
    Binary-, RedBlack- and AVL-Trees in Python and Cython
    boringssl
    Brotli
    bspatch
    Google Cache Invalidation API
    Checkstyle is a development tool to help programmers write Java code that
    Compact Language Detection
    Compact Language Detection 2
    Closure compiler
    codesighs
    colorama
    d3
    devscripts
    dom-distiller-js
    Expat XML Parser
    eyesfree
    ffmpeg
    fips181
    flac
    Flot Javascript/JQuery library for creating graphs
    Google Toolbox for Mac
    GIMP Toolkit
    harfbuzz-ng
    hunspell
    hunspell dictionaries
    Hardware Composer Plus
    IAccessible2 COM interfaces for accessibility
    iccjpeg
    icu
    ISimpleDOM COM interfaces for accessibility
    jsoncpp
    google-jstemplate
    Khronos header files
    launchpad-translations
    LCOV - the LTP GCOV extension
    LevelDB: A Fast Persistent Key-Value Store
    NVidia Control X Extension Library
    The library to input, validate, and display addresses.
    libcxx
    libcxxabi
    libevent
    libexif
    libjingle
    libjpeg
    libjpeg-turbo
    Braille Translation Library
    International Phone Number Library
    libpng
    libsrtp
    libusbx
    libva
    libvpx
    WebM container parser and writer.
    WebP image encoder/decoder
    libxml
    libxslt
    libyuv
    LZMA SDK
    mach_override
    markdown, a text-to-HTML conversion tool for web writers
    mesa
    modp base64 decoder
    NSBezierPath additions from Sean Patrick O'Brien
    Mozc Japanese Input Method Editor
    Cocoa extension code from Camino
    mt19937ar
    Netscape Plugin Application Programming Interface (NPAPI)
    ocmock
    OpenMAX DL
    openssl
    opus
    OTS (OpenType Sanitizer)
    PDFium
    PLY (Python Lex-Yacc)
    Polymer
    Polymer
    powergadget_lib
    Protocol Buffers
    Python FTP server library
    mock
    Quick Color Management System
    re2 - an efficient, principled regular expression library
    readability
    google-safe-browsing
    sfntly
    simplejson
    skia
    SMHasher
    Snappy: A fast compressor/decompressor
    Speech Dispatcher
    speex
    sqlite
    Sudden Motion Sensor library
    SwiftShader software renderer.
    Simplified Wrapper and Interface Generator (SWIG)
    talloc
    tcmalloc
    tlslite
    The USB ID Repository
    usrsctp
    Webdriver
    WebRTC
    webtreemap
    SHA1 for Windows toolchain that is built from external sources.
    The Windows Installer XML (WiX)
    wtl
    x86inc
    yasm
    zlib
    jqTree
    WebRTC sample code
    pySerial
    url_parse
    V8 JavaScript Engine
    Strongtalk
    fdlibm
     
    groze, Nov 1, 2014
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  10. Kari Win User
    Outdated credits do not change facts.
     
  11. groze Win User
    That exactly my point, there shouldn't be outdated credits period. *Smile
     
    groze, Nov 1, 2014
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  12. Mystere Win User
    Blink is a fork of WebKit, which removes features they weren't using. It's still going to render a lot closer to current Safari than Safari 5.1.7 for Windows does.

    My guess is that most changes that are not deprecating WebKit features that Chrome didn't use are probably back ported to WebKit anyways, so they are likely still very close in terms of general rendering functionality.
     
    Mystere, Nov 1, 2014
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  13. groze Win User

    Internet Explorer 11 now most used web browser in World

    groze, Nov 1, 2014
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  14. Trust_No1 Win User
    I use Chrome almost exclusively, and yes they can track you, as all browsers do. There are add-ons that can block and VPNs can obscure it also, so that you can not be tracked.

    But, I use Chrome because I use a number of the available apps, plus, and (silly me) I also like to be able to theme my browser. I even designed my own. So, I have no problems, with it.

    I use Firefox, to do things Chrome doesn't offer.

    And lastly, I use IE to usually do my online installs. Though Chrome has improved this function.
     
    Trust_No1, Nov 2, 2014
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  15. Trust_No1 Win User
    This one shows Safari with 15.2%. Wow. Safari is only available for MacOS if it's only counting desktop browsers (which it seems to be), and MacOS only accounts for about 7% of the market share. How, exactly does MacOS then have more than 2x the browser share than they have computers?

    If the numbers include mobile, then that would include iOS and MacOS, but then those numbers would also include Android. And MacOS + iOS is far less than than 15% of the installed base of Android alone, much less Android + everything else that might be running Chrome (or some version of it). So those numbers, just based on the Safari stats are highly suspect.

    First.. w3schools? Seriously? Apart from the fact that they're the worst joke on the internet... ( see W3Fools ? Better web education for all ), w3schools is again very tech heavy... mostly visited by web developers which are going to be very chrome and firefox heavy. The bias is well known. In fact, look at the huge difference between safari usage in the two sites.. 15.2 vs 3.6, and chrome is almost 60% vs 40%.

    Now, Statcounter is a completely apples to oranges comparison. Statcounters stats are based on page views, not on market share. In other words, they base their stats on which browsers view the most pages and do not remove duplicate ip's or try to find unique visitors.

    In theory, users of chrome should view just as many pages as users of IE, but in practice we really don't know if that's the case.. since chrome users tend to be more technical, they may spend much more time surfing... or they may just visit a lot more pages than other people on a daily basis.. it's hard to tell. Their justification is that they count which browsers are the most USED, not the ones that have the most market share, and they also count users who use more than one browser.

    Regardless, I've seen the browser statistics for a lot of sites, some of them quite large (Millions of dollars in revenue per day), and I've never once seen one in which chrome or any other browser came even close to surpassing IE in usage on any site I've monitored. So, simply put.. My own personal experience agrees with the net applications data, and not with the others. NetMarketShare data is also similar... Market share for mobile, browsers, operating systems and search engines | NetMarketShare We thank you for the analysis, which only brings us back to my original statement

    ...it all depends on the spin-reporters
     
    Trust_No1, Nov 2, 2014
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