Windows 10: Is Windows 10 Optimizing My SSD Drive

Discus and support Is Windows 10 Optimizing My SSD Drive in Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance to solve the problem; I upgraded from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. I was looking around and noticed that Windows 10 optimize drives, is schedule to optimize (defragment) my... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance' started by Lery, Aug 7, 2015.

  1. Lery Win User

    Is Windows 10 Optimizing My SSD Drive


    I upgraded from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. I was looking around and noticed that Windows 10 optimize drives, is schedule to optimize (defragment) my solid state drive. I have always been under the impression that defragmenting a solid state drive, is not advised. Has this changed?

    :)
     
    Lery, Aug 7, 2015
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  2. GlenFa Win User

    Win 10 SSD "Needs Optimizing" How is this handled in Win 10?

    I have had Windows 10 installed for 2 weeks

    It seems impossible to get any info on how Windows 10 handles SSD drives. I have 2 SSD and 2 HDD. The 2 HDD were optimized automatically and quickly without any action from me. Since the upgrade to Win 10 the SSD are sitting there all dumb like the C: Solid
    State Drive (Last Run (Optimization)) "Never run", "Needs Optimization". A few days ago I run "just the Analyze" on the other SSD, which had the same status as the C: SSD, and now it says that it's ok. I have to assume that Windows 10 is using TRIM on the
    SSD.....? Do we have to Analyze the drives before it optimizes? Is it a timing thing?

    My setting for automatic scheduled optimization is set at weekly. It's been 2 weeks and still not optimized.

    Why is it so had to get info on this or am I asking the wrong questions??

    Frustrating.

    Thanks for any help.
     
    GlenFa, Aug 7, 2015
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  3. moek3405 Win User
    W10 Cannot defrag hard drive volumes which are defined as SSDs.

    No problems with the OCT/ 30 /2015 upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. The system has been running good. Recently Boot-ups were slow and I decided to Defrag the volumes on the PC's physical hard drive. Now under W-10 OS (CIs Windows 10 Optimizing My SSD Drive :), RECOVERY (DIs Windows 10 Optimizing My SSD Drive :), SYSTEM, Etc
    are defined as Solid state drive (SSD) status “Optimization not available”.
    Optimization is not available for SSD volumes on the “Optimize Drive screen”.
    So, why are the physical hard drives defined as Solid State Drives? Should these SSD definition be corrected and if so how?
     
    moek3405, Aug 7, 2015
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  4. iBawbag Win User

    Is Windows 10 Optimizing My SSD Drive

    What this does is run the Trim command to wipe blocks which are no longer in use.
    It does not actually defrag the drive.
     
    iBawbag, Aug 7, 2015
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  5. Lery Win User
    Interesting, and thanks for the response. I understand what TRIM is, I just thought that was a separate function.
     
    Lery, Aug 7, 2015
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  6. I have mine scheduled to run daily (optimize SSD) but just checked and it has not run in 8 days. So how is this fixed to have it run? Seems the only way to have it run it to do it manually.
    Is Windows 10 Optimizing My SSD Drive [​IMG]
     
    cyberpunk1161, Aug 13, 2015
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  7. DTG1 Win User
    You dont need to run that daily. If fact dont even schedule it, just run it when you feel you system is running poorly.
     
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    Then why have the option to have is scheduled and to have it run daily if it will not run when scheduled or daily?
     
    cyberpunk1161, Aug 14, 2015
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  9. petr23 Win User
    Are you leaving your PC idle for enough time? The maintenance won't start if you are using your PC.
     
    petr23, Aug 15, 2015
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  10. Mystere Win User
    Notice that it says "optimize" and not "defragment". For a normal drive it will say "Defragment".

    Windows disk optimization for SSD does in fact defrag (I believe once per month), because doing so does clean up certain directory structures which will eventually start performing poorly, but most of the time it just does a TRIM operation. The defrag is not a full defrag, I believe it just defrags MFT and directory entries.
     
    Mystere, Aug 15, 2015
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  11. jds63 Win User
    Mine seems to do the same no matter how it is scheduled, might recall Windows 8.1 doing the same to me. BTW Daily is too often, unless just trying to see if it worked
     
    jds63, Aug 15, 2015
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  12. Yeah just seeing if it worked and no I have not been on my pc for 8 days none stop.
     
    cyberpunk1161, Aug 15, 2015
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  13. jds63 Win User

    Is Windows 10 Optimizing My SSD Drive

    Yeah, i know should not matter if on PC or not for it to know, meant doing trims everyday not necessary, once a week or more is good enough, unless doing a lot of installing and installing (writes and erases).
     
    jds63, Aug 15, 2015
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  14. DTG1 Win User
    This. There are 2 things I follow for SSD's. 1. Quick Defrag with it hits 40-50% fragmentation. 2. Optimize only when you notice your system is has slowed in some areas. As a gamer, you can gauge performance speed by how fast games usually load.

    Letting things go that long, its still infinitely faster than a platter drive, and extends SSD life a bit.
     
  15. jds63 Win User
    1. Just do not use word Defrag for SSD. With traditional HDD too much defragging too often will cause more wear on the drive.
    Do not think one week or more is going to make a difference and trimming not sure it's going to prolong the life an SSD.
    Think what prolongs it, not letting SSD write and erase large files too often, if have a software does this, move write destination folder to another mechanical drive.
     
    jds63, Aug 15, 2015
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