Windows 10: I've got a ghost file and can't delete it.Not even 'rmdir /q /s' helps

Discus and support I've got a ghost file and can't delete it.Not even 'rmdir /q /s' helps in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; It's your system and you may do as you wish, but in my opinion you are playing with fire. If you manage to delete it without a BSOD, it will just be... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by Uialeth, Aug 27, 2017.

  1. f14tomcat Win User

    I've got a ghost file and can't delete it.Not even 'rmdir /q /s' helps


    It's your system and you may do as you wish, but in my opinion you are playing with fire. If you manage to delete it without a BSOD, it will just be re-created. Windows needs this for it's internal functions, beyond restore points.

    A fairly non-technical explanation: What Is the Folder, and Can I Delete It?
     
    f14tomcat, Sep 13, 2017
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  2. topgundcp Win User

    FYI, the only way you can delete this folder is to boot up with any LINUX distro ie. UBUNTU, Linux Mint etc...
    However, this folder will be re-created upon reboot windows with a size ~20K to keep it small. If you are not using System Restore, Search ...
    Beside System Restore points, Windows also stores:
    content indexing service databases that speed up your file searches
    Distributed Link Tracking Service databases used to repair shortcuts and links
    Backup catalog.
    In addition:
    If you run chkdsk then a log file (chkdsk.log) will be created in it.
    If you install Macrium, Macrium will also create a file called $MRCBT

    This folder can be prvented from creating with USB flash drive only using the link below:
    How to prevent creation of folder in Windows 10 for USB flash drives? - Super User
     
    topgundcp, Sep 16, 2017
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  3. pepanee Win User
    Hey topgundcp, thanks for that link. I really like that idea.

    I have a question about it that I hope you may know, or if someone else knows:
    • Suppose I enable that option from that link you posted (to disable the System Volume Information folder to be not created on USB flash drives), will this turn off that folder creation in my two external disk drives (that are connected with a USB cord)?

    I don't want it the Search Indexer service to exclude those drives from being indexed. That link shows the name of the key in the registry as the "DisableRemovableDriveIndexing". I don't want that happening, I want to keep the Search indexer keeping an eye out for those two drives.

    I only want the System Volume Information folder to be disabled from the small USB memory flash drives.

    Thanks
     
    pepanee, Sep 17, 2017
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  4. topgundcp Win User

    I've got a ghost file and can't delete it.Not even 'rmdir /q /s' helps

    @pepanee
    The answer is NO. Your external hard disk is seen by Windows 10 as basic fixed disk, not removable. See screen shot:

    I've got a ghost file and can't delete it.Not even 'rmdir /q /s' helps [​IMG]

    Personally I don't use Windows Search/System Restore but use third party software (Macrium for backup, Listary for instant search result) instead so I try to keep this folder small. The only time I want to delete this folder if it is infected by virus or Windows updates turn on the system restore which I don't use.
     
    topgundcp, Sep 17, 2017
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  5. Uialeth Win User
    Hey everyone,I've got somewhat mixed news right now.The good news is that i found out what most of these files do, and what parts of windows creates them/ how to disable them.(and to some extend there are group policies and settings that make this process easier and remove the need of deleting stuff manually, you can just officially deactivate some of those things.)

    The bad news is, that both programs behind MountPointManagerRemoteDatabase are needed on boot, if you disable them, your system greets you with a BSOD that doesn't even have a proper error message because Microsoft never thought someone would be stupid enough to mess around with those files ^^
    I am trying to figure out where those drivers are actually located. Windows lies about the file locations so hard, it's unbelievable.
    The short version is that the files in the /drivers folder are symlinks and not the actual files, and the symlink destinations are unreadable.
    If I figure out how to get an ACTUALL copy of the driver file, I'll try to punch some common sense into Windows.
     
    Uialeth, Sep 18, 2017
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  6. Uialeth Win User
    Uialeth, Sep 18, 2017
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  7. pepanee Win User
    topgundcp: So I tried that. Then I tried to plug in a USB stick, I saw the SVI (System Volume Information) folder in there. I tried deleting it, but it wasn't getting deleted. So I formatted that USB stick and then it wasn't there anymore. Windows did not create it. So I restarted the computer with the stick still connected to the computer, yet after the restart, it got created again. That folder is now still undeletable. That defeated the whole purpose. Also my Search Indexer appears to have restarted, which is kinda lame. (small # items indexed, and it's running right now). Also that site has a typo if you want to do it the Registry method. The GPEDIT method is correct, yet the Registry's correct method is here: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/preven...ion-folder-usb

    Uialeth: Yea I've tried that before, it's not there.


    Oh well.. it would've been nice not to see those folders on the USB sticks.
     
    pepanee, Sep 19, 2017
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  8. Uialeth Win User

    I've got a ghost file and can't delete it.Not even 'rmdir /q /s' helps

    @pepanee

    You can disable search indexing without disableing Windows search, usually when you search for files, it doesnt save any noticeable amount of time to have everything indexed anyways.

    Also, can you tell me what exactly was recreated when the folder reappeared?

    there is a file called WPsettings.dat or something like that, that is part of the windows store functionality that windows lately puts on all devices, it has to do something with Windows Phone, that what the WP stands for in the name as well.

    You can take ownership of the folder if you want to take a look into the SVI folder
     
    Uialeth, Sep 20, 2017
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  9. pepanee Win User
    Oh I have a bunch of files on the computer... slightly over half a million files =P
    ...so over here it takes a while to re-index.

    I'm just wondering if you were able to fix your problem, you're the original poster of the thread.

    And thanks about that WP thing, now I know what that stands for: Windows Phone.
    I don't even have a Windows phone

    After I format a USB Device, I get the System Volume Information folder with the WPSettings.dat in there.
     
    pepanee, Sep 20, 2017
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  10. Well, normally, the system volume information folders are seen as threats for that matter of being undeletable, this is because those are some files that shouldn't be even showing up. These files and folders are the reason why the 8 GB USBs are actually 7.4 or so GB, and so on. These files are the configuration set into the driver or removable devices for them to work or, at least, that's how my pc treats those things. I hope this helps.
     
    SLENDER RISING, Sep 21, 2017
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  11. f14tomcat Win User
    System Volume Folders and files are not threats, and are not seen as threats by any app or AV or OS I am aware of. I don't want some guest or new member to read that and think it's ok to just start deleting them. That would be a big mistake.

    Here is a clearer explanation of the 8.0 vs 7.4 you mentioned as caused by these files. The size difference you perceive is a Marketing calculation by the vendors.. Smoke and mirrors.

    Why does my SanDisk 8GB memory card show only...(2016) - Quora
     
    f14tomcat, Sep 21, 2017
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  12. Oh, I understand, my bad. Just that I had a USB that was considered virus, since the only file I saw was that one, I believed it was because of that.
    Thanks for correcting my mistake
     
    SLENDER RISING, Sep 21, 2017
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  13. f14tomcat Win User

    I've got a ghost file and can't delete it.Not even 'rmdir /q /s' helps

    No problem. You'd be surprised how many times people ask "Why is my 8GB not 8GB? I paid for 8GB and it's only 7 something! Grrrrr....". *Smile
     
    f14tomcat, Sep 22, 2017
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  14. I used to be like that until I did the research *Biggrin. Have a nice weekend!
     
    SLENDER RISING, Apr 4, 2018
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