Windows 10: Key Windows 10 defense is 'worthless' and dates back to Windows 8

Discus and support Key Windows 10 defense is 'worthless' and dates back to Windows 8 in Windows 10 News to solve the problem; Tweet — Twitter API (@user) date[/quote] Microsoft has been telling users to upgrade to Windows 10 because of its superior in-built defenses... Discussion in 'Windows 10 News' started by Brink, Nov 19, 2017.

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    Brink New Member

    Key Windows 10 defense is 'worthless' and dates back to Windows 8


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    Brink, Nov 19, 2017
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  2. Tanarotte Win User

    Windows 10 compatibility report is not ready

    Your suggestion is completely useless. User doesnt ask about a generic FAQ. User wants to update to windows 10 but stupid and completely worthless raport is keeping him out. Same as me, i have everything ready, update downloaded, yet i am waiting for worthless
    generated raport if my brand new pc is compatible or not.

    Why it is completely worthless? Because users report crashes bugs and driver issues that were completely okey with your worthless raport. There should be an option to "proceed anyway".

    Oh and btw. . .2 weeks to generate worthless raport? that means, lets say my ssd fails, i get a new one, have to install windows 8, patch it, then windows 8.1, patch it (because some **** thought it would be a good idea to require different installation/activation
    key for 8.1) then . . i will have to wait up to two weeks for my pc to update and return to its "normal state" just because a worthless raport is being "generated" and because another ****** decided i cant just use my windows 8 key for windows 10 free upgrade
    using new installation? Congratulations on decision making.

    This windows is not free. It costs users 8+ hours of fiddling with updates to get to "ready for w10" stage, then up to two weeks, OR "go buy 200$ key, install from iso file within 15 minutes and be done"
     
    Tanarotte, Nov 19, 2017
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  3. I have a windows 8 total defenfe how can I install it on windows10.

    Hi Rafar,


    Thank you for sharing your query in Microsoft Community.


    Please provide us the below information to assist you better:


    - Are you referring to Total Defense ?

    - Are you facing any issue installing windows 8 total defense?

    -Are you able to install other programs?

    I would like to inform you that on Windows 10 Windows defender comes pre-installed.


    If you want to install Total Defense, you will have to disable Windows Defender and then try to install Total Defense..

    For further assistance on Total defense refer the below link :

    Contact Us | Total Defense

    Refer the below article for further assistance on Windows 10 Defender :

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/using-defender#1TC=windows-10

    Let us know if this helps.

    Keep us posted with the status of the issue, we are here to assist you.

    Thank you.
     
    Akheel Ahmed, Nov 19, 2017
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  4. jimbo45 Win User

    Key Windows 10 defense is 'worthless' and dates back to Windows 8

    jimbo45, Nov 19, 2017
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  5. cereberus Win User
    Zero entropy - what utter garbage. Any scientist or engineer know ms what entropy is, and that overall it inrxorably increases until the end of time when universe finally dies due to heat death!
     
    cereberus, Nov 19, 2017
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  6. PaulGo Win User
  7. Cliff S New Member
    To see what software in your install even uses ASLR(or other security stuff too), get Process Explorer64, right click the columns at the top, select columns you wish, like ASLR:

    Key Windows 10 defense is 'worthless' and dates back to Windows 8 [​IMG]

    close, then click the ASLR column, and you can the have a look-see.
    (click screenshot to expand)

    Key Windows 10 defense is 'worthless' and dates back to Windows 8 [​IMG]
     
    Cliff S, Nov 27, 2017
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  8. lx07 Win User

    Key Windows 10 defense is 'worthless' and dates back to Windows 8

    You are thinking of the schoolboy concept of entropy. You should be thinking of this Entropic security - Wikipedia

    This is not the same thing at all - just the "random" number is always exactly the same in Win10 and was not in earlier EMET versions. Therefore (as it is always the same number) how would you define the entropy? Zero seems a pretty fair description.

    It isn't ASLR is wrong it was just incorporated wrong in Win 10 apparently.

    Just read the OP - it links to it.

    Will Dormann on Twitter:
     
  9. cereberus Win User
    Entropy is not a schoolboy concept! It underpins the whole of thermodynamics.

    It is bs using term for anything else.
     
    cereberus, Nov 27, 2017
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  10. lx07 Win User
    Best you update Wikipedia then and make sure anyone using cryptography uses a different word.

    Best make sure there is not more than one meaning of the word "word" either. Word up!
     
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