Windows 10: Latest on SSD settings on Win-10

Hello,

Went through several posts and some external links on what to do for SSD drives under Windows-10 and it seems so confusing.

What is the latest thought on this matter?

Which services etc (if at all that is the case) need to be disabled?
Optimize - Should I enable this or disable? I normally do not use System Restore and that makes some difference on whether this works automatically every month.

Some think that Optimize does do a normal defrag every month (or at least that is what I got but could be mistaken as I was getting a bad headache going over this stuff *Tongue*Tongue).

Have a unit with just one PCIe NVME and will be adding a spinner soon.

So, should I wait to add the spinner before running - winsat formal - to allow windows to set itself up properly?

Thanks for your assistance.

:)

 

HDD won't spin down/sleep in Windows 10

I to have the same problem.

Win 10

Asus z170-a

SSD - Samsung evo 850 for OS

HDD 2x WD Blue 1tb for Games, storage etc.

Latest drivers.

HDD's set to power down after 15 to no effect.

 

When upgrading from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10, update fails and I get 80070002-20009 error

This failed installation was on a cloned ssd with win 8.1 Pro. I used the Samsung Migration software to copy my 8.1 installation on another ssd in my computer. I have 4 ssd physical drives. Only my latest one a Samsung 850 EVO has had this failure issue
with win 10. The other drives had successful installations of win 10 Pro. But I believe at least one other drive was cloned also. So I really can't be sure the cloning is the issue.

 

I didn't do anything. I just installed Windows 10 and let it go.

 

As @NavyLCDR said, just install Windows and everything will work just fine. Most of the Optimization info you read are for the early generations of SSDs and operating systems. They were needed then. The newer SSDs and Windows 10 don't need much, if anything. Optimization is good for the SSD in Windows 10. The OS recognizes it and knows what to do.

 

Windows 10 handles SSDs pretty well, so as above, just install and go.

 

Things really have changed then.

But the following thread (just over 6 months back), talks about winsat formal etc
Fast Start/Fast Boot/Hibernation Settings for OEM Win10/64 Pro SSD?

So no disable index, prefetch/superfetch etc?

Based on Scott's blog, it seems that one needs to enable System Restore on a unit for windows to Defrag SSD. It seems that windows does defrag SSD once a month but only when system restore is enabled.

So, am still conflicted about letting windows handle all settings on its own. It has been proven in the past not to be completely reliable and trustworthy (both MS and Windows) and hence all the articles that exist about optimizing the OS.

Thanks,

 

A request to all who have Windows default set up for SSD.

Per another website, Could you please post your findings on:
Filter the application log event 258 from defrag

OR

or execute PowerShell command:"Get-EventLog -LogName Application -Source "microsoft-windows-defrag" | sort timegenerated -desc | fl timegenerated, message"

This will most likely provide details on whether windows has been defragging your SSD on the sly or if it was just optimizing with Trim.

My windows install is just too new to get any information on the above. Needs a unit that has had windows-10 running for at least a month.

Thanks for your assistance.

 

My SSD has been installed since last August. Here is what is returned using your script:

Get-EventLog : No matches found
At line:1 char:1
+ Get-EventLog -LogName Application -Source "microsoft-windows-defrag" ...
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+ CategoryInfo : ObjectNotFound: (*Smile [Get-EventLog], ArgumentException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : GetEventLogNoEntriesFound,Microsoft.PowerShell.Commands.GetEventLogCommand


However I have Optimization turned "off" for the C: drive and use "Samsung Magician" to provide Trim operations for the SSD.

 

Thank you for the above.

But since you've disabled Optimize for C drive which i assume is your SSD, then you're not really using Default Windows settings.

 

For me my C-drive (SSD) can't be defragmented/optimized on latest build by default. So no, Windows does not defrag SSDs, by default.

 

You do know that SSDs are not required to be defragged and it only shortens their life? SSDs are not affected by fragmentation AT ALL. Fragmentation is an issue with HDDs because of making the read/write head having to seek and move to different locations on the disk to put the file together. SSDs don't have read/write heads and no moving parts.

Defragging an SSD is not only unnecessary, but it is WRONG! SSDs have a limited number of write cycles for each storage location and defragging only causes unnecessary write cycles and also increases the number of trim cycles required to clean up the bits of files moved from storage locations. Defragging an SSD, therefore decreases an SSDs performance and shortens its life.

 

You never have to defrag an SSD;

Should You Or Should You Not Defrag An SSD - EaseUS

 

Perhaps some confusion so please bear with me.

(1) Need a Windows-10 unit running for more than a month AND
(2)One in which the Disk Optimizer has been enabled for SSD (per MS this behaves differently for SSD and Spinners) AND
(3)System Restore is enabled

Goal with the Powershell script is to see if MS defrags SSD even though it is supposed to just Optimize.

Thanks for your assistance.
@NavyLCDR, @Rocky - Yes, aware of defrag of SSD, using the term loosely. Win-10 has Optimize that is supposed to Trim SSD and Defrag Spinner.

 

That's not what the Microsoft WIndows Storage team say (at least not reputedly in 2014).
From here:
The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD? - Scott Hanselman

The point being (I think) that the tables in the file system are affected by fragmentation, even if the actual files aren't.