Windows 10: Microsoft Announces New Windows 10 Build Ahead of RTM

Now wait a minute. . .according to some folks here on the 10s it cannot be ready some day this week. . .it just can't. again according the these (some) folks Windows 10 just isn't ready for prime time, so how is it that Microsoft could even be talking about releasing the RTM by July 9th. If Ten is released in RTM then it just can't be ready. . .*Wink

 

Laptops/prebuilt desktops will start shipping with W.10 after July 29th (where most consumers get their Windows licenses)

 

RTM doesn't really need to be "ready for prime time" as long as it can be patched to whatever is current (hopefully ready for prime time) when the consumer starts up the OS for the first time. Anyone that buys an OEM device on July 29th will likely have a bit of updating to do even on July 29th, maybe even a new build.

Edited: Frankly, if it weren't for the handful of people that would indubitably bitch that they were being forced to have an internet connection; they could just install an updater on OEM devices to update to the latest and greatest upon first boot.

 

Well, quite frankly, I would never buy a computer that *requires* an internet connection to function. I also don't need to reinstall the OS on the regular basis. Thus the idea of regular new builds is not sitting well with me. I will certainly not make any changes to my main machine come July 29th.

 

This. Service packs (new builds) should remain a big deal like XP/Vista/7/8

 

They could always have the option to install from a preinstalled ISO (RTM) or download & install the latest bypassing the need to go to an older build (RTM) to update. Personally, I'd rather have a clean install from the get go than have an updated RTM to deal with.

 

Build 10.0.10500.0.th2.150706-1800 and that was 2 days ago 1st one was th1 this is now th2

 

That's actually an excellent idea. Protected install partition on the drive; unless an end user accidentally figures out how to blow the partition out, they'll always have a pristine copy of the original media on hand for us techs to fix their stupidity. Also negates the need for a live internet connection. You sure you don't work for Microsoft? *Wink

 

There's enough partitions as there are, with all those UEFI and stuff a disk could look like Balkan states, divided in bits and pieces. I always trim to minimum number required and without UEFI, in my case, it's always ONE. There's enough programs to be able to make independent backup of it and be able to go back to it within minutes.
Without internet, very few things run nowadays anyway so distributing windows that way makes most sense. For others that can't or don't want to be online all the time selling DVDs or USB memory sticks is only way in any case.

 

Hi there

Zillions of things run without internet

For example CAD/drawing packages, Photoshop, Office software of all types, Music studio software, Machine control and measuring software, and goodness knows how many other things.

It's perfectly valid and legit to want to use a computer ISOLATED from the Internet - and this computer could still be doing useful and productive work.

For a lot of people life without the Internet is inconcieveable --but it exists --lots of dedicated stand alone machines don't need e-mail, Twitter, farcebook, google, web browsers etc.

Remember also that a computer can also be connected to a LAN where the LAN itself isn't on the Net so stuff can still be shared if required.

The idea of a hidden partition is also horrible --in any case a lot of people often swap a usually "cruddy" laptop hard disk for an SSD anyway. A standard ISO image WITH NO BLOATWARE should be on the new PC - On setup the user should be prompted to make a bootable USB from the ISO. No Net required, No Hidden partition screwing up with your HDD's, and only uses around 3GB of the initial space. The user could then simply back up the ISO to external media as well and delete the image.

The start up software should prompt the user to insert a USB stick and then do the job so it would be SIMPLE even for a complete novice.

Cheers
jimbo

 

Plus 50K votes.
There are people out there who have dial up or pay dearly for low speed internet.

 

I unplug my computer at night and during storms. I don't know how windows 10 would even update at night. I also boot into windows 7 & Xubuntu.

 

I use a UPS it helps but when there is a bad storm I turn my PC off.

 

+1, well said Jimbo...

 

Those are all for dedicated machines which can be very sensitive to any changes. Don't forget, we used computers for loooong time without internet at all but even than computers I used for coordinating and running production machines were tightly locked with only one port open so I could fix something for night shift over the phone line from home.