Windows 10: Microsoft Block Level Backup and 'System' process suddenly making the system unusable

Discus and support Microsoft Block Level Backup and 'System' process suddenly making the system unusable in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; For about a week now when the automatic backup starts the computer becomes basically unusable because saving even small files now takes more than 30... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by Jandsm5321, Sep 30, 2021.

  1. Microsoft Block Level Backup and 'System' process suddenly making the system unusable


    For about a week now when the automatic backup starts the computer becomes basically unusable because saving even small files now takes more than 30 seconds.Looking in Task Manager and Resource Monitor there are two processes using the hard drives, Block Level Backup and a suspiciously vague "System" process. They're accessing the C drive and the backup drive.Task Manager says they're only using about 30% of the hard drive bandwidth, though I don't know how Task Manager calculates that. It seems reading files, like loading programs, isn't slowed down too much, just saving data to the C drive i

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    Jandsm5321, Sep 30, 2021
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  2. jtw23 Win User

    Bloatware updates make system unusable

    A couple of things just occurred to me.

    The way a software update works is in two steps. The first step is to
    download the files, and the second step is to install the files. The
    problem I've been describing is that installing the files for Windows
    apps (bloatware) takes over the whole machine, and makes it almost
    unusable.

    The Windows OS updates are installed by requiring a restart, and then
    the installation takes place during the restart ("23% completed --
    don't turn off your computer"), and that take a few minutes or a
    couple of hours, depending on the size of the update,

    The bloatware updates are similar, except that they don't require a
    restart. Instead they simply make your system almost unusable for a
    couple of hours. In other words, the OS updates and the App updates
    really both take control of the computer, but the OS updates do it in
    the context of a restart.

    That shouldn't happen. The app installation should just run in the
    background, and allow everything else to run normally. The fact that
    it's making the system almost unusable means that the installation is
    running at a high priority. If it ran at a normal priority, then
    maybe there wouldn't be any problem.

    Well, it occurs to me that the Process Explorer program (from
    sysinternals) has a "Priority" column. I have Process Explorer up all
    the time anyway, so it's handy when there's a problem. So now I've
    added the "Priority" column, and I've set the display to show
    processes in decreasing order of priority. And wow, there's a bunch
    of them running at priority 13 (high), and most of them running at 8
    (normal). Interestingly, Firefox and Chrome run at priority 4 (low).

    So anyway, next time I get an attack, I'll take a look at the Process
    Explorer window, and maybe that will tell me who's causing the
    problem. And maybe, just maybe, I can just set that process to normal
    or low priority, and solve the problem. (Sorry, I may have crossed
    the line into fantasy thinking, but I can't help myself.)
     
    jtw23, Sep 30, 2021
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  3. System process blocks Port 80

    You clearly don't understand the problem here. But I was able to solve it by doing the following:

    • Activate IIS
    • In Services disable the IIS service
    • Reboot
    • Port 80 is no longer blocked by the System process
     
    GregorWaldvogel, Sep 30, 2021
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  4. CountMike Win User

    Microsoft Block Level Backup and 'System' process suddenly making the system unusable

    Bloatware updates make system unusable

    You are quite right when you talk about distinguishing Windows Update and updating other "Bloatware". Even Windows "Modern" APPs are separate programs and shouldn't interfere with system operation and much less require reboot. Same goes for any other program you install but programmers got spoiled with all of ample and fast HW, lots of CPU cores, RAM and fast disks. If such a program requires a reboot upon an update/upgrade, that mostly means that is messing around with protected system files. System protection doesn't let them do anything while they are active and running, could be done only while system is rebooting. Some also install new or alter states of services also necessitating a restart.
    Drivers behave in similar way, most often having to restart that particular piece of hardware.
    Chances are that any of those are going to misbehave, but lets keep that in it's own context, not all of that is OS's fault. If you just blame OS for those things, you are just making it more difficult to troubleshoot as it may sidetrack you.
     
    CountMike, Sep 30, 2021
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