Windows 10: Microsoft Removes Classic Theme Support in Windows 10 Build 10074

I don't have a problem with the UAC. It does not bother me. What does bother me is that my desktop would become an appendix of a tablet/phone Operating System. All those moves towards the settings are made for that - and that's not the only move into this direction. I think the 1 year W10 give-away is one that I will skip - although I generally like give-aways.

 

A computer is a computer, it doesn't matter if I can carry it in my pocket or it sits on my desk. There aren't going to be any more such things as "desktop OS's" or "Phone OS's" It's just an "OS".

The computer in my phone is far more powerful than the desktop of a few years ago. So there's no reason why I can't plug my phone into a socket on my desktop and have it act like a desktop, unplug it and take it with me and use it as a mobile. Plug it into a "laptop" shell and use it as a mobile laptop. Already such devices have been made, and it won't be long before that reality will be commonplace.

So if the same device can be a desktop, a tablet, a phone or laptop... How exactly can there be a Phone OS, and Desktop OS?

 

In parts you are right. But the modus operandi is quite different whether you operate with a touch screen or a mouse and keyboard. And for a desktop the touchscreen makes little sense. I have a laptop with a touchscreen. That touch has never been used.

The single OS strategy makes sense for MS - after 35 years in operating system development I know what that implies. Whether it makes sense for the end user is another question. The modern UI settings - besides the fact that parts don't work - are an unnecessary level of indirection for a mouse user. I usually have to click thru more levels than with a true desktop UI - example Personalize. Try to make a high contrast theme with your own color settings in build 10074.

 

I read some information on UAC ( see below) . I don't know if that what you are talking about.

I don't think Windows 7 home premium has this type of folder and registry virtualization you are talking about. I think that is more for pro and enterprise versions using group policy. I could be wrong.

Is there any articles I could read further on what you are talking about that says UAC writes to a special folder?

I am a really *Sleepy so I may have overlooked some things.

UAC Processes and Interactions

How UAC Works

UAC Processes and Interactions

 

hi guys,

me too, never use UAC, do not need it.

jeff

 

I disable UAC and save few seconds *Smile it's pretty useless for me.

 

OK you UAC "Haters" stay away from Linux where for every little change you need to give your admin password. Probably should also stay away from a Standard account in Windows too*Wink

 

I help out a home based company that provides tech support - both hardware and software - for end users.

The majority of issues that I help fix - malware, PUP, and viruses mostly - have happened to those who have mistakenly disabled UAC or do not run anti-virus/anti-malware programs.

You really don't want to know how many hours I have given training to end users, like some of the supposed 'super users' I've read in this thread, who have disabled UAC and do not understand why it is there...all they want to do is 'get rid of that annoying pop-up every time they run a program'...


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Touch is really a red herring.. The real benefit here is that the exact same application runs on all three devices. You don't need a special version of Word for phones, and Word for Tablets and Word for Desktops. The app just changes its UI to adapt to the screen size and input model you're using. After all, that's the only difference here (besides processor architecture).

Universal apps can work on any CPU and on low-memory foot print devices or monster memory devices.

The problem here is that this is a whole new OS really. It's still very immature. It needs time to "bake" before it can do everything that Win32 can do, but eventually Universal apps will have just as much power as desktop apps. At that point, Win32 can be phased out.

 

You missed the link on the How UAC Works page called UAC Architecture, which shows the Virtualization i'm talking about.

 

Mystere,
I have a question you could probably answer for me, In the end which will be more secure the desktop(or Win32) or the Universal apps?
I was thinking the Universal because of the sandboxing. And with being able to resize the Universal apps they actually are no different now for the user experience than the software we have been using for years.
Or if you already posted on this, just direct me there.

 

Are people that are getting constant UAC prompts getting them from win 10 or is this based on your last OS?

I have mine just set to the default and it is very rare I see it come up (occasionally if installing s/w), could probably count on my fingers the number of times its popped up this year so far (this is win 8.1)

 

Well, as always, the answer is "It depends". In theory, yes, Universal apps are sandboxed and should be much more secure. In practice, there will always be OS bugs that can be exploited, and it will only be a matter of time before someone figures out a way to do so... However, this should be a lot more work, and bugs should be less likely to cascade into granting greater access... but its hard to say.

Security is always a back and forth between the good guys and the bad guys.

 

Talking about touch screen, i don't understand why on build 10074 MS makes default settings for touch pad,where most PC's don't have touch pad, one of my Hp DV6 laptops did not even installed build 10074, on the other HP DV 5 with same motherboard it installed and gave me a freeze and error DPC watchdog violation,i had to disable touch pad.
Shouldn't Updates recognize if PC has touch pad or not? instead of causing 10074 build not to be installed or give you an despicable error like DPC watchdog violation,

 

Build 10074 installed both the mouse and touchpad drivers, but hid the touchpad from me. I had to unplug the mouse and let it discover the touchpad before I could even disable the blasted thing! And yes, I gave feedback from a very nasty touchpad! Won't do that again.