Windows 10: MS Might Have Removed Win 10 TH2 ISOs Because of Activation Issues

Well - I was one of them. Had Windows 10 on one machine since early August - but after weeks of "telemetry" crap, privacy issues, incompatibilities and so on - I decided it was time to get back to actual productivity - so I wiped it and returned to Windows 7.

After holding out some high hopes - espeically after the pull of 1511 - my gut feel is 10 is a real mess now - MS has taken their new "software as service" model way too far. Now it's just disaster after disaster. Feels like Apple....

Sonic.

 

It is not really that easy. Most of the world runs on Windows, and I'm not talking about desktop workstations. Front ends of virtually everything: air traffic control software, X-ray machines at airports, ATMs, medical equipment, Point-of-Sale terminals, industrial machines etc. etc. etc. is running on Windows these days. There are non-Windows solutions as well, but Windows dominance is not even challenged. This is much more difficult to change than some workstation that is used for emailing and web browsing.

As an example from a completely different area, I'm a software developer whose target platform is Linux, Linux and only Linux. However, I'm not planning to give up Windows as my primary everyday development platform (yes, for Linux-targeted products) simply because Linux is still nowhere close to Windows in that department.

 

Yeah, I fear a horror in sequels: TH2 breaks BitLocker > TH3 breaks MS Office > TH4 breaks third party apps ...

I have upgraded one test machine to Windows 10 and have kept it so far, but I don't feel like upgrading my other machines. I truly hope that Microsoft can get its act together by 2020 (W7 EoS) *Eek

 

Greg Carmack - ain't that our own Gregrocker, who hasn't been immanent here since June?

 

I've worked with 10 now for about 4 months or so, since the previews and the July release. I did the November "upgrade" and when it was done, my machine's performance was hosed, so I then did a clean install of 1511 from ISO, and that went well, but then various bugs and glitches started appearing. My overall impression of 10 at this point is that it's in pretty bad shape. Too buggy and the way they're now forcing "upgrades" won't fly either. I will have to hold off on 10 for now, till things settle some, and until they straighten all this out at MS. To me, the kindest way of putting it would be to say that it just doesn't look good.

 

Yes, I know you're probably right. Desktop Linux is one of those things that most likely will never take hold, since it hasn't up to now, and I doubt it ever will, for a variety of reasons. I'm just frustrated with 10 and it's current status, and if I'm right, I think much of the public will get frustrated with it too. And beyond the everyday user, I really can't see corporate/business deploying 10 at all.

I guess we'll just have to see how it all sorts out in this coming year or two...

 

Um, you might want to check that. As far as desktops go, yes Windows is the primary platform. But if you are talking about servers in businesses and those running the Internet, Linux is a huge player. Apache, Tomcat, MySQL, BIND, Sendmail these things run tons of stuff in the real world. My business desktops are about 90% windows, 10% Mac. Servers on the other hand are about 80% Linux and around 20% Windows.

 

A while back - about 15 years ago, I was attempting to withdraw money from an ATM and it rebooted in the middle of my transaction and the boot screen was OS/2 Warp.

 

"Who hasn't been immanent here". *Roflmao2

The one and only....

 

My uneducated guess is M.S was losing control (or at least what they thought was adequate oversight ) of the activation /digital entitlements with the MCT and ISO media clean installs and otherwise using winkeys outside of Windows update /upgrades and re sets so they put the brakes on ☻☻

Somebody probably did a compliance audit and somebody up there in OZ doesn't like what they saw !

It's the control is power and power is control thing or the power and control wheel had a flat ! ☻☻

OTOH the 1511- ( 10586.3) build is running fine on 3 desktop boxes here and one Elitebook , (4) 7 x64 licence upgrades and one Insider build on this dual booter !

 

That wouldn't make any sense though. When windows update downloads the update installation files, you can convert the install.wim or install.esd file into an iso image. I even read there is way to add programs to the install.wim or install.esd but that is a little more complicated.

 

I just don't see that given the new business model, the reason the upgrade was free in the 1st place. Win 7 with key, I had 3 installs. For the 4th, I had to call and deactivate the dead PC for the new. Once upgraded, was not win 10 supposed to associated a key with 1 of those 3 installs?

Maybe they are having problems with that. But they have had time to deal with the key issue since July, one would think, especially since it was not an option with 10240. And also given the speed with which TH2 was pulled... and the lack of transparency.

 

Yea but they ain't banking on the millions or billions of average users outside of the update channel even finding an install.wim ESD and converting the file to bootable installers ! It's all about risk management remediation and the numbers this is a global thing and the numbers can add up or maybe they are going back to their Omnipotent ways even though they never strayed much . ☻☻

 

So they are banking on the non billions and millions and the non average user?

 

One Windows.........MS probably wants us all to be immanent i.e. existing or operating within their benevolent permanently pervading and $ustaining universe. ☻☻