Windows 10: Never prompted to elevate privilege as administrator

Discus and support Never prompted to elevate privilege as administrator in User Accounts and Family Safety to solve the problem; I recently upgraded my W8.1 system to W10. I'm assuming my administrator password is the same as it was - I don't recall being prompted to change and... Discussion in 'User Accounts and Family Safety' started by shortmort37, Nov 16, 2015.

  1. Never prompted to elevate privilege as administrator


    I recently upgraded my W8.1 system to W10. I'm assuming my administrator password is the same as it was - I don't recall being prompted to change and save it - but, I'm never prompted for it. Instead, everytime I try to do something that requires administrative privilege (Manage my computer, install an .exe, run a CMD as administrator, etc.), my cursor goes to a spinning disk next to the arrow for 4-5 minutes or so - and then, I get this pop-up:


    Never prompted to elevate privilege as administrator [​IMG]


    I'm not sure if get the same complaint when I attempt to change my UAC setting, or whether it's simply ignored; but I never get the opportunity to change it here:


    Never prompted to elevate privilege as administrator [​IMG]


    I'm tempted to revert back to 8.1 - it's been less than a month - but I don't know for sure that I won't have the same problems when I get there. I'd like to press on and stay with W10, if I can - but, I'll try to revert before I do a complete wipe and install.

    Anyone have ideas about what I can try to get out of this mess?

    adTHANKSvance,
    Dan

    :)
     
    shortmort37, Nov 16, 2015
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  2. Windows 10 issue "Subst" command doesn't work

    So, you log in as the user "Administrator", correct?

    You did not switch off UAC, correct?

    If you answered both with "yes", the Administrator user does *not* run with administrative privileges. Only, if it needs administrative privileges it will prompt you for them and you click "yes". That's all.

    You cannot "log in as an elevated user". You can elavate later for specific tasks if there is need. This is almost seamless.

    If you login as a user *with* administrative privileges you do not have these privileges with normal actions! Because you don't need them! The system prompts you if you need them.

    If you login as a user *without* administrative privileges the system prompts you if it needs administrative privileges. In this case you have a little more to do than say "yes". You have to click the administrative account that you want to use and enter
    the password. You do not switch users! Only this task will be carried out with the privilege of that other user.

    The normal way is to create a user account of your own, say "leonard". This user account gets created during installation and will have administrative privileges. There's no reason not to use it. In case you need admin privileges it will ask you.

    If you do it that way then the Administrator account is locked and not usable. Only if you go to safe_mode (or there is no other user with admin privileges or you unlock it) you will have access to that Administrator account, which is not password-protected.
    So, this Administrator account is mainly a safe-guard for you, in case, something's wrong with your normal account.

    which I took to mean that if you run subst in the non-elevated command window, only users without
    administrator privileges can see it.

    This is correct, depending on the way you read it. It's not dependant on the basic user privileges, it's dependant on the privilege that the user has at that moment. A user with admin
    privileges does normally *not* run elevated. Only if you do "run as administrator" you go to elevated state and only for that process/task, not for the "whole" logged-in user. So, if you are logged in as the Administrator user and run the subst command in
    a normal command window then you have it in File Explorer and you should have it for most other operations. It won't be available for a process that runs elevated, e.g. installer for a program or in incompatible program that runs elevated all the time. For
    this case you would have to run subst in an elevated command window additionally and you should be able to access that virtual drive no matter if that process is elevated or not. (There may be problems with the files created in elevated mode, once you run
    a non-elevated process against it, depends on the permissions/integrity level set during creation.)
     
    B-Hörnchen und A-Hörnchen, Nov 16, 2015
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  3. e.gray Win User
    Multiple user account folders

    Let's get back to this one statement. Are you saying that you had to enable the built-in Administrator account and login using those account credentials? That seems very very odd to me...

    All of the software that I know of never requires that you actually login to the built-in Administrator account. Instead, they just require that the account be in the Administrators group. The membership in the Administrators group is all is that is required
    to give an ordinary account elevated privileges.

    The "User Account Control" UAC control will typically prompt you before accessing these elevated privileges of an ordinary account.
     
    e.gray, Nov 16, 2015
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  4. Ztruker Win User

    Never prompted to elevate privilege as administrator

    What account are you logged in as? Are you sure it's an Administrator level account.

    Start, Settings, Accounts to check.

    Did you assign a password to the hidden Administrator account? Can you login to it or is it still hidden?
     
    Ztruker, Nov 17, 2015
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  5. I am logged into the "Dan" user account, non-administrative. From this account, I want to "Run As Administrator". Normally, I would be prompted for the administrator password. Now, I'm not.

    Tonight, I tried the one other thing that occurred to me: From the cmd prompt,

    runas /noprofile /user: DanPC\administrator cmd

    This *does* prompt me for the administrator password. Alas, it does not appear to be what I set it to in W8.1.
     
    shortmort37, Nov 17, 2015
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  6. Ztruker Win User
    Ztruker, Nov 18, 2015
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  7. This sounds promising - I will give it a try this weekend, when I have time. I admit to being confused, though - is "administrator" in the reference you cite:

    net user administrator /active:yes

    Different than the "administrator" I used in the cmd runas command? Is the "hidden" administrator account nameless, or if it has a name and isn't administrator, what is it?

    Thanks
    Dan
     
    shortmort37, Nov 18, 2015
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  8. Ztruker Win User

    Never prompted to elevate privilege as administrator

    No, it's called administrator. Worth trying, nothing to lose but a little time.
     
    Ztruker, Nov 19, 2015
    #8
  9. OK, I tried Dinesh's tutorial. First, here's a list of accounts for my machine:


    Never prompted to elevate privilege as administrator [​IMG]


    I held down Shift and rebooted, and got the WinRE splash screen. I was prompted to log in, with "Dan" my only option:


    Never prompted to elevate privilege as administrator [​IMG]


    If I clicked on "Don't see your account", I got this:


    Never prompted to elevate privilege as administrator [​IMG]


    Is it suggesting that "Dan" is an administrator account? Oh, that it were so... I went back, selected the "Dan" account, and it booted into command prompt. I then attempted the first of Dinesh's instructions:


    Never prompted to elevate privilege as administrator [​IMG]


    Hello darkness, my old friend... "Access Denied."

    Dan
     
    shortmort37, Apr 5, 2018
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