Windows 10: New System Image disk made under orig Win10 2004 no longer works to make a new one under...

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  1. New System Image disk made under orig Win10 2004 no longer works to make a new one under...


    i7 KBLake cpu at 3.2GHz, ASUS Z270AR mobo, 32 GB 3200Mhz RAM, MSI RTX2080Ti 11GB VRAM TRIO GFX, Samsung 2 x 970PRO NVMe 1TB NVme , 3 SATA HDD plus Samsung 1TB EVO SATA SSD.

    WIN10 PRO with latest cumulative Update to 2004.


    History: The original 2004 download auto updated very recently from 1909 after long wait and appeared to install successfully, though with

    Recycle bin full of other files.

    My main 2 Apps seemed OK, Da Vinci Resolve 16 studio and eng. CAD, so time to make a Sys Image disk, though decided to

    keep my 1909 sys image disk already made due to some new issues of instability with an App....just as well I did,

    Bought a brand new 2TB HDD exact same as boot drive and made new 2004 system image on it, which it seemingly did OK.


    But when returned to desktop the brown stuff hit the fan....got a message that a "Repair" was underway, which was not

    successful. Could no longer boot from my system disk. A Recovery USB also did not work

    Tried to do a Repair using my Win10 distribution CD, but that did not work either.

    The new Sys Image I had apparently made OK under 2004 also failed to work !!

    I have another PC with Win8.1 PRO on it. Transferred the boot drive to it as a data drive and found my data still intact.

    but both boot and recovery areas trashed ,in fact missing.

    Backed up my data from it .

    Moved the boot drive back to Win10 PC and used my 1909 sys image back up to bring it back to a fully working system.

    again.. Kept using 1909 as now many reports of a faulty 2004. no glitches in apps now


    BUT recently it updated to 2004 again, though u/dates turned off.

    Ran the system as is for now, but did not dare try sys image back up again!

    Apart from a screen full of files sent to the was empty Recycle Bin this did not totally stop my work flow, despite the glitches.


    THE NEW PROBLEM. AFTER THE CUMULATIVE UPDATE FIX TO 2004 2020.10.1570.2078

    1. Now must try Sys Image back up again? . All drives removed except boot and sys image drive.

    2. But the original new disk with older 2004 version on it is not now recognised by Sys image as a drive !!!

    3. Checked the drive , CHKDSK OK, and REFORMATTED , BUT IT APPEARS AS ONLY A 150Mb DRIVE NOW..!

    4. Disk Management says its only 150Myte max capacity as well !!! may be why sys image not seeing it, not enough capacity

    5. Yet my Win8.1 PC says its OK, full 1.8TB there after formatting!! Can also xfer files onto it OK !!!

    6. Try CMD Admin commands in WIN10 PC FORMAT, no diff, CHKDSK, OK, ATTRIB no files to work it now

    Cant get ATTRIBUTES or DISKPART to work on this drive...maybe I am in putting it wrong, FSUTIL, DISKPART etc no success.

    7. CHKNTFS reports OK and a CLEAN drive


    My conclusions: It appears that when a WIN10 PRO sys image is created , that it marks the drive against the PC its made from and

    PROHIBITS any attempt to re re use the drive by formatting etc , xcept ONLY on the PC and opsys update version on which t was made, as it can be formatted and is fully accessible as an empty 1.8TB drive under Win8.1 PRO and by my Win 7 PRO as well

    So the Update to the opsys apparently rendered it unusable The original sys image backup is hidden still on this drive and cant be removed??


    Can any one advise me as how to get this brand new drive to be recognised as an empty full capacity drive under this version of Win10 PRO? -- as I can no longer use this new drive at all as it is on this PC.

    This is urgent as one of my expensive licensed apps have no more installs left due to the orig 2004 crash and I need to make a sys image

    urgently to retain this software and all else in case of another opsys failure. Another new 2TB drive costs $105 over here

    I've now spent 3 full days and nights on this and cant find any reference to it on this or any other site so far.

    Thanks for your time

    John

    :)
     
    JOHNBYERS1, Sep 11, 2020
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  2. Tim B285 Win User

    Win10 on new hard drive, how to activate

    • Installed Win10 to new hard drive, but Win7 code does not work.
    • Tried online (slui.exe 4) activation:
      • entered numeric codes online - which failed,
      • talked to 1st line tech who entered Win7 code - did not work,
      • transferred me to 2nd line tech and no one came on the phone line after 2.5 hours.

    Win7 was pre-installed on HP computer with no media provided and HP support has no process to supply replacement media or ISO (last HP purchase). Tried to install Win7 to new drive using Recovery Disks I created, but it could not find system image.

    Not willing to return to old hard drive as the new one has SSD and is at least 3 (7?) times faster.

    QUESTION 1: Is my only option now to buy either Win7 or Win10?

    QUESTION 2: Without activation, when will Win10 no longer boot? If 12 months, I can retry online activation later.
     
    Tim B285, Sep 11, 2020
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  3. OssieMac Win User
    Windows 10 Fall Creators - System Image Backup Re-installed onto a New Disk

    If using System Image Backup, in the event of a disk failure, can the image be restored to a new disk or does Windows not recognize the new disk and cause a failure to activate or even failure to load?

    I will appreciate an answer from someone who has actually done this or maybe a Microsoft person who is in a position of knowledge to provide a definite answer.

    I have thought about making an Image and then change the disk and test. However, if it fails, I have this worry that Microsoft might record the attempt to install on a different disk and cancel the activation/registration and then when the original disk
    is re-installed then it will fail also.

    For the uninitiated who may view this thread at a later date, System Image Backup is a little hidden and is accessed as follows.

    • Type Backup into the search field
    • Select "Backup settings"
    • "Backup" should be the default selection in the left column but if not then select it.
    • Click the link "Go to Backup and Restore (Windows 7)"
    • Select "Create a system image" (towards top left of dialog screen) and follow the prompts.

    Alternatively select via "Control Panel."

    • Type Control Panel into the search and select Control Panel
    • Under System and Security header select Save backup copies of your files with File History.
    • In the bottom left of the resulting dialog, select System Image Backup.
    • Then in the next dialog select Create a system image (towards top left of dialog screen) and follow the prompts.
     
    OssieMac, Sep 11, 2020
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  4. New System Image disk made under orig Win10 2004 no longer works to make a new one under...

    installing a system image onto a new device

    Win10 pro is my OS

    system image available

    Am I required to purchase a Win10 pro system on my new computer or is any Win10 system appropriate to use the system image backup?
     
    AlbertD Loggy, Sep 11, 2020
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