Windows 10: OK I hated windows 8/8.1 but I like 10 why?

Thanks, Lee. *Smile

 

I don't disagree. Just as the early Metro apps were also pretty feeble, but all things have to evolve from simple to complex. Each new release, and update has included more API's and stronger functionality, just as each new release of Windows did.

Problem is, a lot of people refuse to see it that way, and assume that Metro will always be the same way as when it was first released. They don't see it as an evolving system that gets better, just as that crappy system they don't want and refuse to consider.

 

Hi there

100% and more I agree with you

-- I've been in the Oil and Gas 'biz for the last part of my working life plus doing free lance Pro photography gigs particularly for In house technical mags and also the Travel Industry (also involves some writing too) - before that I was an Electrical Engineer and I did get some education on the old IBM mainframe systems too (MVS/370 for example -- a brilliant OS in its day incorporating a lot of stuff modern OS'es are still using such as "Privileged execution mode" and the concept of Virtual storage and paging - and above all multi-tasking.

What DOES annoy me about a lot of modern I.T Geeks when I request something - the first question they always ask is "Why do you need it -- we can't see a use for it ...."

Now most of these people have NO concept of some of the stuff we do -- so trying to explain why I would need a decent size screen for displaying geological maps or needing all sorts of other stuff for running complex analytical spread sheets trying to optimise operations on drilling procurement and operations is just a waste of time.

The guys in the I.T services on the whole do a great job providing I.T infrastructure but trying to get them to understand exactly what we are doing is a 100% waste of time.

I don't expect to tell a fully qualified Lawyer or Tax account on how they do their jobs so I'd expect as a fully qualified experienced Gas and Oil engineer of many years standing to be treated with the same sort of respect too - and not be beholden to some offshored "young twerp" asking me if "I really need this " !!!!.

I'll let them get on with sorting out the I.T problems but they should let me run my applications properly too -- it's a a TWO WAY STREET -- they are OUR customers not the other way around !!!!!

@ I.T guys -- not having a go at you -- difficult job these days I know - but you need to be a bit more accommodating of US (your users) too -- we aren't all 100% bovine idiots !!! althougn at times we might seem to be. !!!!

Cheers
jimbo

 

Excellent point - that's why a change management team is indispensible to ensure proper communication between all parties (brass, dev, user)...

Overall I think WTP is OK...kudos to M$ for "seeing the light" (sorry no long explanatory post)

 

OTOH, maybe they don't see any benefits for them personally.

It could also be similar to some business products here in Australia (I don't know if you have this issue in the US).

A number of times I've received letters claiming that they are improving their customer service.
This of course entails additional fees (for something I never asked for and can't cancel).

The weird thing is I never see any improvements, but I do see the additional money being sucked out of my bank accounts. *Mad

 

that happens here in Canada too. for me anyway, with cell phone and cable tv , flip phones will or already do ,not work anymore ,you must use a phone with a data plan ,cable tv went digital ,we needed new boxes ,first one free ,monthly rent on additional ones ect ect .they even stopped broadcasting basic tv to rural areas where I live ,now if you want tv you got 2 maybe 3 choices ,cable if offered or 2 different satellite company's

 

Hmmm...
When I searched for create system image or create backup image it gave me web search results.
When I searched for backup the results included the app you reported, but it also included local results:

Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\File History
What was the scope of your search (where did you initiate it)?

File History has Create System Image in the lower left.

I'm not sure what you want to back up or how (Win8 and Win10 are different beasts as far as backup is concerned)
The old ways are there, we just have to find them. Personally, I think progress is a good thing and I'll look at the newer ways of backing up this machine.

Note: there have been some reports that system images don't restore correctly. I haven't tried it yet.

I had a chuckle with your Billions comment *Wink
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Bill, I'm not sure I'm understanding your directions to find Backup Imaging. Is it there somewhere I'm missing?

I did not say billions. It is commonly known that MS has had a billion customers worldwide. These were raised on the Desktop which drives the world economy.

I am not getting into any further discussions about possible right or wrong turns the company has made due to the ankle biters here.

 

Don't stop, your input is very valuable...besides ankle biters only slow you down, they don't stop you. Keep rockin my friend *Wink

 

Open Control Panel -> File history
Create system image is in the lower left corner

It just reminded me of the McDonalds sign - nothing else *Wink

Fair enough, ankles biters are bottom feeders anyway.

I don't think I mentioned rightness or wrongness, I only expressed an opinion on progress. It's not always forward (another opinion*Wink) - Zip disk and tape backups are two that bit me: new technology allowed for increased capacity - but that technology was replaced a few years later rendering the backups useless when the creating application or device would not run on ... wait for it ... newer technology.

I'd like to know how system images work out for you on Win10, especially restoring an image - please post your findings.

Bill
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Hi

I'm making my images with EaseUS TODO backup.

I've backed up 5 times so far and restored 3, no problems and being able to backtrack has save me a lot of hassle as I mess around with this.

If I install stuff and change my mind I restore instead of trying to remove stuff.
Keeps my install nice and clean.

Mike

 

Kari has a tutorial on backup - it might give you another option.
System Image - Create Hardware Independent System Image

 

Even though there are better free imaging apps the convenience of having it built in was a small revolution in 7 and suddenly made backup imaging accessible to the consumer masses. Likewise Kari's Sysprep tutorial.

 

Even though there are better free imaging apps the convenience of having it built in was a small revolution in 7 which suddenly made backup imaging accessible to the consumer masses. Likewise Kari's Sysprep tutorial.

Now in TP so far its just as easy to download Macrium which is more full-featured anyway, though making the boot disk is an extra extra step. This takes time when I'm doing installs via Team Viewer since I always make a backup image.

Thanks Dudely *Wink

 

From my experience, Windows 8.1.1 is the best release to date BECAUSE of it's UI flexibility and usability. Honestly, having a start menu like in 7, just an OS like Windows 7 as is, just isn't going to cut it these days.

I'm working on about a few laptops, one has 8.1.1 on it and the other two have 7. I know what all three people do on their laptops and for sure, there's more use being squeezed out of the 8.1.1 laptop than 7. It's strange going through the start menu, knowing that half of what programs are there will not be used. Even more surreal, I bet you that ALL the Windows 7 installs I've done, the 56+, half of the programs in the All Programs list was never touched or clicked on. DVD maker was never used, some File Explorer directories like Documents weren't actually used for some people. What was used however were a handful of programs, mostly Photoshop, Skype, common programs. The main program category? An internet browser. That's the main number one program used on all Windows 7 systems. An operating system designed and built around files can't thrive in a world where the main use of these PCs have shifted towards internet browsing than file browsing.

That's where Windows 8 came in. It was designed around that notion of taking your 15 internet tabs and making them little windows on a home screen that shows new info without you jumping website to website or refreshing content constantly or keeping separate browsers open just for certain websites at all times. If you wanted all your File Explorer locations on your Start Screen along with ALL your Desktop programs, you can do that. If you wanted just Pictures or Videos pinned and a few most used programs and a lot of apps, sure. The Start Screen is the most customizable UI in Windows ever.

But the problem is, it's so customizable and nobody realizes that. That's been the biggest issue by far. It's like how Joe Belfiore put it, Windows 7 is like a first gen Toyota Prius, Windows 10 is the latest Tesla. The only difference is that the Prius had tricks up its sleeve for its time, the Tesla not only out performs the Prius, but is the most advanced car there ever was. But you don't need to relearn how to drive a Tesla if you drove that Prius. It would have been best if they at least put navigational onscreen tips in 8 that shows you what you can actually do. It's much like how in 7, pinning programs to the Taskbar was a new concept that even to this day isn't fully utilized by many, let alone Jumplists.

The nice thing about Windows 10 is, it's configurable out of the box but retains the utter flexibility 8 offers and expands on that even more.