Windows 10: on a restart Fall Creators Update reopens apps from before

Discus and support on a restart Fall Creators Update reopens apps from before in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; Okay did another test this time with FF, PM, Open Office, Malwarebytes, CCleaner, some folders and IE 11 open. Waited a bit. Shutdown. Waited a little... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by Bree, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. tomseys Win User

    on a restart Fall Creators Update reopens apps from before


    Okay did another test this time with FF, PM, Open Office, Malwarebytes, CCleaner, some folders and IE 11 open. Waited a bit. Shutdown. Waited a little bit. Booted up.

    Did IE 11 again because was not sure if I had opened IE and PM since they look similar.

    IE 11 auto-started up. Nothing else.
     
    tomseys, Oct 18, 2017
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  2. Hanabishi Win User

    I don't know existing tweaks, for now.
     
    Hanabishi, Oct 18, 2017
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  3. tomseys Win User
    Okay did another test.

    Yes:

    IE 11, Task Manager and Wordpad all restart when I boot up after shutting down with them open.

    FireFox, Palemoon, Edge, Notepad, File Explorer, Open Office, iTunes, Thunderbird, Windows Defender, DTS Audio Control, Mail, Store, This PC, Malwarebytes, CCleaner and any other ones I tried in earlier posts don't. They remain closed on reboot. I don't use/have Google's Chrome browser so I cannot test that.

    So it seems based on what some are reporting in this thread so far that:

    Chrome, IE 11, Task Manager and WordPad are applications restarting on boot up after shutdown with them open at least using the normal/common way to shutdown - click start, click power, click shut down.

    I don't use Chrome or WordPad/Word and I use IE 11 and Task Manager relatively rarely and I would never leave them open before shutting down. So this is something normally I would likely never see at least as it is now.
     
    tomseys, Oct 18, 2017
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  4. Barman58 Win User

    on a restart Fall Creators Update reopens apps from before

    I would have to assume ( and that is all it is, an assumption so I may be wrong), that this is related to the new share apps across devices facility - where you can shutdown your PC and then carry on with your work when you start your laptop or Surface device.

    Whether the patchy implementation is due to some programs Not meeting MS development standards - MS aps should always do this, but 3rd party apps do not always - a major reason of some apps failing after a major update

    As for going back to the old way check the setting screens and see what options are available to switch the function, If this is the cause then I'm sure that it will happen to many users ( I have not noticed it as I rarely shut down my systems), then I'm sure that someone will find a work around even if there is not an option already - this type of thing is one of the "Joys" of updating windows
     
    Barman58, Oct 18, 2017
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  5. Hanabishi Win User
    Don't use shutdown from Start Menu is temporal workaround for now.

    Basically, you have next variants:
    • Press Alt+F4 on the desktop.
    • Create shutdown shortcut (with "shutdown /s /t 0" command).
     
    Hanabishi, Oct 18, 2017
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  6. baxenko Win User
    still found strange, created a new user and after a reboot there is an automatic logon with the launch of programs
     
    baxenko, Oct 18, 2017
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  7. eternalrz Win User
    I tried the nuclear option, installed Windows 10 fresh from an ISO created on a bootable USB drive. The problem was not resolved.
     
    eternalrz, Oct 18, 2017
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  8. cereberus Win User

    on a restart Fall Creators Update reopens apps from before

    There is not a problem as such as it is a new feature, but it clearly is not consistent.

    I found chrome/word (never tested excel etc) reopen but not EDGE (maybe because that is a uwp app?). VLC did not restart plus a couple of other apps I tried.
     
    cereberus, Oct 18, 2017
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  9. tomseys Win User
    Anyone see any application besides Chrome, IE 11, Wordpad/Word and Task Manager do this?

    Out of the 25 or so apps I have tried, the last three of the four above are the only ones that restart.

    Here is what I have tried that have not restarted:

    FireFox, Palemoon, Edge, Notepad, File Explorer, Open Office, iTunes, Thunderbird, Windows Defender, DTS Audio Control, Mail, Store, This PC, Malwarebytes, CCleaner, Macrium Reflect, Fastone Image Viewer, VLC Player, Settings, Control Panel, Phone Companion, Disk Cleanup, Calculator

    Msconfig restarted but I forget if that is normal behavior - if you haven't adjusted any settings after opening.
     
    tomseys, Oct 18, 2017
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  10. cereberus Win User
    The desktop shortcut works well.

    I modified it with the /hybrid switch, as this enabled fastboot to work as well.

    shutdown.exe /s /hybrid /t 0
     
    cereberus, Oct 18, 2017
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  11. baxenko Win User
    I install starltsbak++ 2.5.2 and fix it
     
    baxenko, Oct 18, 2017
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  12. cereberus Win User
    You can also create a restart shortcut which works as well

    shutdown.exe /r /t 0

    Note: if apps have files open, you will get a popup message warning you. You can do regedits to bypass this but not advisable.
     
    cereberus, Oct 18, 2017
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  13. LEOPEVA64 Win User

    on a restart Fall Creators Update reopens apps from before

    I have written several comments about that in different threads:

    Cumulative Update KB4043961 Build 16299.19 for PC

    Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast & Skip Build 16273 for PC

    Some think that this "feature" can be disabled with a toggle that is in Settings-Accounts-Sign-in options, but they are completely wrong, because they are two separate "features", as J. Gentleman (Software Engineer at Microsoft) told me through Twitter:

    on a restart Fall Creators Update reopens apps from before [​IMG]

    on a restart Fall Creators Update reopens apps from before [​IMG]


    A week ago I wrote a comment about the "solution" I used to solve that problem:

    https://www.tenforums.com/windows-10-news/94708-cumulative-update-kb4043961-build-16299-19-pc-37.html#post1162548
     
    LEOPEVA64, Oct 18, 2017
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  14. Try0x101 Win User
    So, in my language about unexpected features in software in community of programmers exist meme, "Не баг, а фича".
    What means "Not bug, that feature", and if this "Reopening apps" feature not exist on every PC and cannot be tweakable, we make assumption what that looks more like new bug.
     
    Try0x101, Oct 18, 2017
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  15. Bree New Member
    Yes. Office 2007 (Word, Excel and Powerpoint) and the Snipping Tool.
     
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