Windows 10: Previous Versions does not work on system drive but second drive

Discus and support Previous Versions does not work on system drive but second drive in Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance to solve the problem; Hi There! I have two physical disks in my notebook, one simple partition each, BitLocker encrypted. Drive C:, which is my system drive and drive D:,... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance' started by ernst, Jan 7, 2016.

  1. ernst Win User

    Previous Versions does not work on system drive but second drive


    Hi There!

    I have two physical disks in my notebook, one simple partition each, BitLocker encrypted. Drive C:, which is my system drive and drive D:, for some media stuff.
    Windows Version is Windows 10.0.10586 x64

    I have configured VSS to use the "Previous Versions" feature in case I accidentally delete or overwrite a file. I did this on my Win7 install to and it saved my butt at least three times.
    Anyway, I am IT Tech and I usually know what I am doing. VSS is running (Volume Shadow Copy Service set to "Manual"), snapshots are there but when I right-click on a modified file (or on the root of the disk) and click "Previous Versions", my D: drive correctly displays the existing snapshots, on my system drive C: there is always a "There are no previous versions available" message. But, when I click the "System Restore..." button, I get a list with my snapshots, so I guess I could restore my system.
    Googling around I was not able to find a solution, not even a hint. I am hoping for help here.

    Here is the output of vssadmin. As you can see, configuration seems to be ok and the two manual snapshots are there on both drives. For the moment there is no system restore point, but it does not work with snaps created by them either.


    C:\WINDOWS\system32>vssadmin List ShadowStorage
    vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
    (C) Copyright 2001-2013 Microsoft Corp.

    Shadow Copy Storage association
    For volume: (DPrevious Versions does not work on system drive but second drive :)\\?\Volume{46482e7e-0000-0000-0000-100000000000}\
    Shadow Copy Storage volume: (DPrevious Versions does not work on system drive but second drive :)\\?\Volume{46482e7e-0000-0000-0000-100000000000}\
    Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 4,11 GB (3%)
    Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 4,40 GB (3%)
    Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 5,96 GB (5%)

    Shadow Copy Storage association
    For volume: (CPrevious Versions does not work on system drive but second drive :)\\?\Volume{1e47260b-0000-0000-0000-501f00000000}\
    Shadow Copy Storage volume: (CPrevious Versions does not work on system drive but second drive :)\\?\Volume{1e47260b-0000-0000-0000-501f00000000}\
    Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 2,44 GB (0%)
    Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 3,21 GB (0%)
    Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 18,6 GB (2%)


    C:\WINDOWS\system32>vssadmin List Shadows
    vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
    (C) Copyright 2001-2013 Microsoft Corp.

    Contents of shadow copy set ID: {5d6ff27f-4b16-4a51-bb1f-df7d889eaa48}
    Contained 2 shadow copies at creation time: 07.01.2016 01:19:12
    Shadow Copy ID: {9dd2c632-d0a4-4ca0-9380-8436da3bbc0e}
    Original Volume: (DPrevious Versions does not work on system drive but second drive :)\\?\Volume{46482e7e-0000-0000-0000-100000000000}\
    Shadow Copy Volume: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy8
    Originating Machine: mypc
    Service Machine: mypc
    Provider: 'Microsoft Software Shadow Copy provider 1.0'
    Type: ClientAccessibleWriters
    Attributes: Persistent, Client-accessible, No auto release, Differential, Auto recovered

    Shadow Copy ID: {5a90963f-1a18-4744-a0c1-59a4899e7d7f}
    Original Volume: (CPrevious Versions does not work on system drive but second drive :)\\?\Volume{1e47260b-0000-0000-0000-501f00000000}\
    Shadow Copy Volume: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy1
    Originating Machine: mypc
    Service Machine: mypc
    Provider: 'Microsoft Software Shadow Copy provider 1.0'
    Type: ClientAccessibleWriters
    Attributes: Persistent, Client-accessible, No auto release, Differential, Auto recovered

    Contents of shadow copy set ID: {656c520d-be88-4616-8f8b-5f6019909f29}
    Contained 2 shadow copies at creation time: 08.01.2016 16:32:16
    Shadow Copy ID: {bf7474fa-f0df-4f3f-9b54-571c33202845}
    Original Volume: (DPrevious Versions does not work on system drive but second drive :)\\?\Volume{46482e7e-0000-0000-0000-100000000000}\
    Shadow Copy Volume: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy18
    Originating Machine: mypc
    Service Machine: mypc
    Provider: 'Microsoft Software Shadow Copy provider 1.0'
    Type: ClientAccessibleWriters
    Attributes: Persistent, Client-accessible, No auto release, Differential, Auto recovered

    Shadow Copy ID: {e4f03489-5f9e-4bac-bdf8-575eaa6eeca5}
    Original Volume: (CPrevious Versions does not work on system drive but second drive :)\\?\Volume{1e47260b-0000-0000-0000-501f00000000}\
    Shadow Copy Volume: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy17
    Originating Machine: mypc
    Service Machine: mypc
    Provider: 'Microsoft Software Shadow Copy provider 1.0'
    Type: ClientAccessibleWriters
    Attributes: Persistent, Client-accessible, No auto release, Differential, Auto recovered


    Really appreciate any thoughts!
    (Except those who want to "sell" the "File History" feature Previous Versions does not work on system drive but second drive :)

    Regards,

    :)
     
    ernst, Jan 7, 2016
    #1
  2. DaErnst Win User

    Volume Shadow Copy Service not working on C: drive, error: "There are no previous versions available", on Windows 10

    Thank you Paul_W, but it did not help, my administrative shares are there.

    I cant see any previous versions from the Properties dialog, neither on the disk, nor on a file or folder.

    But ONLY on my system disk. On the second drive it works like expected.

    Regards,

    Ernst
     
    DaErnst, Jan 7, 2016
    #2
  3. How to backup Windows 10 to separate internal hard drive?

    Changing the drive letter of the second internal drive was one of the first things I tried after upgrading to Win10. It did no good. The primary issue is that the BACKUP feature in Win10 does not recognize the internal drive regardless of the drive letter.

    And to one of the previous posters, creating a separate partition on the drive that has Win10 installed does you no good if that drive crashes...which is what I'm trying to prevent against by using a different internal hard drive.

    When I had Win7, I could save an entire system image (docs, drivers, and all) without issue. But now, there is NO ONE stepping up from Microsoft to explain why we cannot backup to a second internal drive.
     
    TomEllerbrock, Jan 7, 2016
    #3
  4. ernst Win User

    Previous Versions does not work on system drive but second drive

    I have tried to create a symbolic link to the shadow copy and this actually works, not really as expected, but basically it does.

    C:\>mklink /d c:\shadow \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy17
    symbolic link created for c:\shadow <<===>> \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy17

    C:\>dir shadow
    Volume in drive C is System
    Volume Serial Number is E2ED-A141

    Directory of C:\shadow

    File Not Found

    C:\>dir "shadow\Users\My Name\AppData"
    Volume in drive C is System
    Volume Serial Number is E2ED-A141

    Directory of C:\shadow\Users\My Name\AppData

    06.01.2016 14:38 <DIR> Local
    03.01.2016 14:09 <DIR> LocalLow
    06.01.2016 23:45 <DIR> Roaming
    0 File(s) 0 bytes
    3 Dir(s) 201.821.536.256 bytes free

    I mounted a snapshot from my C: drive (remember, I do not get any Previous Versions in the GUI).
    It works. I cannot see any files or folders from the root of the drive. When I try to access the "C:\shadow" folder from Windows Explorer I get an access denied error.
    But I can browse and read all sub-folders of the mount and I can create the link directly to a sub-folder as well.

    Seems to me like a bug in the Previous Versions GUI?
     
    ernst, Jan 8, 2016
    #4
  5. ernst Win User
    A brief update on this.
    I was curious if this is a configuration problem on my notebook and did a clean Windows 10 install in a virtual machine. Directly from DVD, Version Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10240].
    I did not apply any updates, configured or installed nothing else, just turned on System Protection, created a file in my Documents folder and then created a restore point. Then I have modified the file, saved it and went to the file properties, Previous Version and... know what: "There are no previous versions available".
    So, this behavior is out-of-the-box and has nothing to do with my notebook.
    Can anyone please try if there are previous versions of files/directories/disk on the system drive? I guess it is a Bug. Or by design with a workaround (some hidden settings, GPOs, whatever) to get over it?
     
    ernst, Jan 8, 2016
    #5
  6. ernst Win User
    Good News.
    After installing Windows Update KB3124263 today, previous versions are there for my system drive, for all files and folders!

    Marked as solved.
     
    ernst, Jan 12, 2016
    #6
  7. lx07 Win User
    Ah, good news. I was watching this thread but didn't have anything useful to contribute (as I use file history).
     
    lx07, Apr 4, 2018
    #7
Thema:

Previous Versions does not work on system drive but second drive

Loading...
  1. Previous Versions does not work on system drive but second drive - Similar Threads - Previous Versions does

  2. Thumbnails Do Not Work On Second Hard Drive

    in Windows 10 Network and Sharing
    Thumbnails Do Not Work On Second Hard Drive: I recently installed a new hard drive in my PC, however and images that are saved there do not have a thumbnail. I have already tried unchecking the "Always show icons, never thumbnails" which was already unchecked and clearing thumbnail cache. Is there any way to fix this?...
  3. Thumbnails Do Not Work On Second Hard Drive

    in Windows 10 Gaming
    Thumbnails Do Not Work On Second Hard Drive: I recently installed a new hard drive in my PC, however and images that are saved there do not have a thumbnail. I have already tried unchecking the "Always show icons, never thumbnails" which was already unchecked and clearing thumbnail cache. Is there any way to fix this?...
  4. Thumbnails Do Not Work On Second Hard Drive

    in Windows 10 Software and Apps
    Thumbnails Do Not Work On Second Hard Drive: I recently installed a new hard drive in my PC, however and images that are saved there do not have a thumbnail. I have already tried unchecking the "Always show icons, never thumbnails" which was already unchecked and clearing thumbnail cache. Is there any way to fix this?...
  5. Drive Unexpectedly Not Working on System

    in Windows 10 Network and Sharing
    Drive Unexpectedly Not Working on System: So last night and all the days I've owned my PC before, nothing terrible has happened and I had not fiddled with anything in relation to my second D: drive. I woke up this morning, and when I went to open my file explorer, the drive and it's contents were inaccessible. I saw...
  6. Second hard drive contains system files?

    in Windows 10 Network and Sharing
    Second hard drive contains system files?: I have two hard drives. The first is a 256GB SSD that holds my Windows installation. The second is a 2TB drive that just holds data. I was trying to create a system image of the windows drive so I can transition to a larger drive. When I try to create the system image, it...
  7. Bitlocker working on OS drive, not on second drive fixed data drive

    in AntiVirus, Firewalls and System Security
    Bitlocker working on OS drive, not on second drive fixed data drive: I am running W10 pro, 19041. I have had to do a fresh install of W10 and since then I cannot switch bitlocker on on the D: drive. The disk is not even shown on the Bitlocker Drive encryption settings page. The C: drive has bitlocker enabled and is encrypted. Have been...
  8. version 1903 just installed, Network drive does not work.

    in Windows 10 Network and Sharing
    version 1903 just installed, Network drive does not work.: version 1903 just installed, Network drive does not work. I deleted it and tried to map it again. no luck, get message Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service. Is there a fix for this??....
  9. Indexing of a second drive

    in Windows 10 Support
    Indexing of a second drive: Hi There, I am having indexing problems in that only my C: drive gets indexed and my data drive D: gets ignored. This means that none of the data on D: is included and as this is where my Outlook files are stored, they too don't get included. I have tried rebuilding the...
  10. Restore Previous Versions of Files, Folders, and Drives in Windows 10

    in Windows 10 Tutorials
    Restore Previous Versions of Files, Folders, and Drives in Windows 10: How to: Restore Previous Versions of Files, Folders, and Drives in Windows 10 How to Restore Previous Versions of Files, Folders, and Drives in Windows 10 [img] Information If you can't find a file on your computer or you accidently modified or deleted a file, you can...