Windows 10: Protect your Windows devices against Spectre and Meltdown

Discus and support Protect your Windows devices against Spectre and Meltdown in Windows 10 News to solve the problem; Hi, From a reliable source as well. Been a Steve Gibson fan for decades. Sure knows his stuff. Cheers, *Wink Discussion in 'Windows 10 News' started by Brink, Jan 8, 2018.

  1. fdegrove Win User

    Protect your Windows devices against Spectre and Meltdown


    Hi,

    Been a Steve Gibson fan for decades. Sure knows his stuff.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Jan 22, 2018
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  2. clam1952 Win User
    clam1952, Jan 22, 2018
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  3. Tony K Win User
    Same here. He sure does know his stuff. Surprised that site isn't mentioned here more often.

    Been using ShieldsUP for eons. He's the port ping king. *Smile
     
    Tony K, Jan 22, 2018
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  4. Protect your Windows devices against Spectre and Meltdown

    He is very well versed in his knowledge of computing...been using his site for many years!
     
    DawsonvilleBill, Jan 22, 2018
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  5. Kbird Win User
    Haven't heard of his Site for a while either ...decided to try LeakTest like in the old days ....seems I have some work to do.... *Sad

    KB.
     
    Kbird, Jan 23, 2018
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  6. Steve C Win User
    The DNS checker on his site is really useful. It polls all DNS servers accessible from your PC and identifies the fastest which may not be your internet service provider's. You can then set your default DNS server to a faster one if you want.
     
    Steve C, Jan 23, 2018
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  7. Cliff S New Member
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    Cliff S, Jan 27, 2018
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  8. Cliff S New Member

    Protect your Windows devices against Spectre and Meltdown

    To get the white papers on Meltdown & Spectre(and tons more technical information on the subject): Meltdown and Spectre

     
    Cliff S, Jan 27, 2018
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  9. The timing of the whole Meltdown/Spectre thing is peculiar. The major players were alerted to the vulnerability in June 2017 and after discussion decided that they would announce the problem on January 9, 2018. Probably with the notion that it would get lost in the noise from CES. So here's a conspiracy theory... ;-)

    Intel and AMD had considerable time to study the 3 vulnerabilities and figure out how their processors would be affected. AMD thought the impact on their processors would be minimal, withess their inital pronouncement when the news broke early. Intel realized Meltdown mitigation would have more of an impact on their processors than on AMD's so they decided to suggest a Meltdown fix to be applied to both Intel and AMD processors. Tom Lendacky, the Linux guy at AMD, figured this out and wrote a memo on December 26, 2017 stating that AMD processors were not vulnerable to Meltdown and should not have this fix applied: LKML: Tom Lendacky: [PATCH] x86/cpu, x86/pti: Do not enable PTI on AMD processors

    That Tom Lendacky memo caught the attention of others too and a few days later an article appeared in "The Register" that exposed Meltdown/Spectre about a week earlier than planned.

    When Linus Torvalds saw this memo he realized that Intel was willing to compromise Linux performance on AMD machines so Intel machines would not be the only ones to suffer a performance hit. This apparently triggered his well publicised Intel rant.

    I expect Intel did the same thing with Microsoft. Thus, both Linux and MS had to scramble to re-code the changes they had been making to handle Meltdown, likely leading to the Win 10 releases that failed to boot on older AMD processors - still, it's hard to excuse MS for failing to test on at least one older AMD computer.

    I've got two older AMD machines with Win 10 (so Spectre 1 is patched). Neither is likely to ever see a BIOS update so there's little choice but to hope that AMD's opinion is correct: Spectre 2 is very difficult to weaponize on AMD. Even the toy versions of Spectre 2 don't work reliably on AMD according to the original reports.
     
    GadgetBuilder, Jan 27, 2018
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  10. aaaaaaaaaah!! Nooooooo!!!!! It's a conspiracy!!!


    Protect your Windows devices against Spectre and Meltdown [​IMG]
     
    RingTailCoon, Jan 27, 2018
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  11. Polo6RGTI Win User
  12. Kbird Win User
    Kbird, Jan 28, 2018
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  13. Kbird Win User

    Protect your Windows devices against Spectre and Meltdown

    Cos that is the Wrong Intel Tool , it is for November's Issue.... Not M&S Issue in Dec.
     
    Kbird, Jan 28, 2018
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  14. I guess I was deleting my post as you were replying. I just went back to Intel and got the Intel ME FW Update Tool. It is dated 28Jan18 same as that InSpectre tool. Same result.

    Protect your Windows devices against Spectre and Meltdown [​IMG]

    Protect your Windows devices against Spectre and Meltdown [​IMG]
     
    indianacarnie, Jan 28, 2018
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  15. I got this HP Convertible at the end of December and it has an AMD A9 processor, even though I'm up to date with all necessary Windows updates and since upgraded the BIOS and UEFI firmware from HP for this machine that tool from Steve's site still showed Spectre Protected: NO!
    I did read somewhere that even with the necessary patches and upgrades some machines could still be vulnerable though. *Huh
     
    Joan Archer, Jan 28, 2018
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