Windows 10: Re-Installing W10 from USB onto a VM

Discus and support Re-Installing W10 from USB onto a VM in Windows 10 Virtualization to solve the problem; I have - a licensed/activated Windows 10 10586.545 Dutch as VM (Ultimate version) - Windows 10 anniversary update English, on USB (created using... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Virtualization' started by tfwul, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. tfwul Win User

    Re-Installing W10 from USB onto a VM


    I have
    - a licensed/activated Windows 10 10586.545 Dutch as VM (Ultimate version)
    - Windows 10 anniversary update English, on USB (created using Media Creation Tool)


    I would like the Dutch .545 be replaced by English Anniversary Update version.

    Resetting the VM version just gets me the same 545 Dutch version again.

    Is it possible to re-install Windows using the USB, if so, how?
    I might create a new VM, but then I run into a license issue, the product key has already be taken.

    Thanks
    =

    :)
     
    tfwul, Aug 18, 2016
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  2. grod777 Win User

    Windows 10 OEM Key

    would the same apply if I used the OEM key on a VM?

    For instance If i install W10 and a VM and then later on delete the VM and then install W10 on the PC directly.
     
    grod777, Aug 18, 2016
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  3. Windows 10 DHCP decline loop

    My new Windows 10 Home install in a VM has started refusing to connect to the Internet. I am using "Bridged Mode" for the network connection. W10 installed from MSDN Iso onto a new Virtual Box hosted
    machine

    I have Wireshark running on the VM Host.

    W10 issues a DHCP request, It is granted one by the router

    The DHCP is acknowledged

    A number of packet exchanges take place using the IP address

    M-SEARCH * HTTP/1.1

    Host: 239.255.255.250:1900

    ST: uuid:98ebada5-b544-5d4f-8e69-3dcb2c014014

    Man: "ssdp:discover"

    MX: 3

    None of these are responded to

    W10 issues a DCHP decline and reverts to a 168.254.x.x address

    The whole Cycle repeats forever getting a different IP address each time from my router

    When I switch the VM to NAT mode then it connects correctly.

    This started happening after I connected my host laptop to a different network which changed the DHCP address range.

    If relevant I am using Avast AV on my W10 guest but it makes no difference if I disable it.
     
    jcs37494891, Aug 18, 2016
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  4. Mystere Win User

    Re-Installing W10 from USB onto a VM

    First, there is no such thing as an "ultimate version" of Windows 10. Did you mean Pro?

    Second, you cannot perform an "upgrade" install between different language versions.

    You should be able to do a clean install, since this is a pro version. Single language editions cannot be activated with a different language, but I think single language only applies to Home (I could be wrong though). So you should probably just install to a clean VM.

    You don't mention which Virtual Machine software you're using, VMWare or Hyper-V or VirtualBox? The procedure is different for all of them to use a physical USB to install.
     
    Mystere, Aug 18, 2016
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  5. tfwul Win User
    Ah .. yes, sorry, about the Ultimate, the source was 7 ultimate (then upgraded to 10 Pro)

    Whilst writing this Windows 10 Pro EN is installing as VM. Don't know what will come out, whether the key is accepted.

    First did
    slmgr.vbs -upk
    in the existing VM

    then deleted that one
    and now created a new one using media creation tool's ISO
    used the Windows 7 Ult. NL key
    and selected English language.

    let's see.. seems it is accepted as sofar the setup is going normal.
    I am not sure, AFAIK one could only 'upgrade/use the same language...?


    Re-Installing W10 from USB onto a VM [​IMG]


    =
     
    tfwul, Aug 18, 2016
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  6. cereberus Win User
    This will only activate in a new vm if the unofficial grace period for free upgrades is continuing.
     
    cereberus, Aug 19, 2016
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  7. Mystere Win User
    To be clear, you need to re-install in the same VM it was originally installed in.
     
    Mystere, Aug 19, 2016
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  8. cereberus Win User

    Re-Installing W10 from USB onto a VM

    Actually my point was you can use a new vm and activate using old key if the "grace period" for free upgrades is still ongoing.

    However, if it has finally stopped, you would have to install in original vm. BUT this seem to be hit or miss with clean installs as the virtual mobo id does not always seem to remain constant even thouhh the vm guuid has not changed.

    This happened to me recently, but I was able to reactivate using the RS1 activation troubleshooter.
     
    cereberus, Aug 19, 2016
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  9. tfwul Win User
    Ehm...
    Am a little confused, possibly my question was unclear, for which I am sorry.

    The situation is like this:
    1. Months agi I installed Windows 10 Pro as a VM (VMware Workstation v12) using the key of a Windows 7 Ultimate NON-English version
    2. the other day I uninstalled the key
    3. I then entirely deleted the VM, so I need to start from scratch
    4. downloaded the .iso (Media Creation Tool)
    5. create a new VM using that iso
    6. at the very beginning one has to select language, keyboard, etc.
    there I select English...
    7. next step, enter key, I enter the key of the NON-English version

    Windows 10 Pro does not report any issues with regards to the language, i.e.
    it does not report that the selected language, that is going to be installed (English), does not correspond with the key.

    English version is installed and is activated. All seem to work fine.

    So far so good.

    The question now is: Is this the correct way of changing the interface language to English?
    Considering that with the Pro-versions of Windows 10, it is possible to retroactively add another interface language
    (see tutorial from Kari How to Add or Remove Language Packs and change Display Language in Windows 10)
    Sure, you have more languages to select from, when going thru the steps in that tutorial.

    So... maybe it is a legitimate option to re-install an English version right from the start over an previously activated Windows 10 Pro non-English version?
    (I admit, it is more drastic)

    =
     
    tfwul, Aug 20, 2016
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  10. Kari Win User
    Windows product keys are version and edition specific and language independent, meaning you can always install and activate a Chinese Windows 8.1 Pro with a Dutch Windows 8.1 Pro product key, or a Finnish Windows 10 Home with a South African Windows 10 Home product key.

    As long as Windows version and edition match the geographical origins of the product is totally irrelevant; the country / region (original language) of the product key and the language you are installing don't have to match.
     
  11. tfwul Win User
    Hello Kari

    Thank you very much indeed!

    This is exactly the answer that I was looking for. I was quite confused on the language matter.
    To be honest, whilst having retail licenses of Windows 7 Ultimate (2x) and Windows 8.0 Pro and 8.1 Pro,
    but all being non-English, I bought a single retail Windows 10 Pro English.

    I discovered that one might apply an language pack alright on a non-English version and things
    look pretty much English, but when going into very detailed matters, such as some Event Log
    events (errors), they may not always be translated/converted into English and therefore seeking
    solutions for such errors can be difficult at times.

    Anyway, many thanks again!

    =
     
    tfwul, Aug 20, 2016
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  12. Mystere Win User
    That's true of Pro and Multi-Language home, but not true of Single-Language Home. Single-Language home keys are specific to that language.

    Windows Single-Language versions replaced the old "Core" editions as the "cheapo" version.
     
    Mystere, Aug 20, 2016
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  13. Kari Win User

    Re-Installing W10 from USB onto a VM

    That Single Language is of course an exception; Sigle Language is only available as pre-installed OEM version, they key tied to that specific hardware and Windows.

    Let's try again: Windows 10 Home, Home N, Home KN, Pro, Pro N, Pro KN, Education, Education N, Education KN, Enterprise, Enterprise N, Enterprise KN and Enterprise LTSB product keys, regardless if OEM, retail or volume licensing are totally language independent and can be used to activate any language version of the same edition of Windows 10.
     
  14. tfwul Win User
    Thanks again Kari!
    and probably...
    this also counts for fresh installations on new pc's of Windows 10 versions that are/were actually upgrades from -retail- versions of 7-8.1.
    After all, in the 'old' days, a boxed/retail version of Windows could be installed on new hardware, after properly being uninstalled on the old (slmgr.vbs -upk)

    =
     
    tfwul, Aug 21, 2016
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  15. jimbo45 Win User
    Hi there

    1) Upgrading from W7 / W8 / W8.1 to W10 -- you can only upgrade to the same edition WITH SAME BASE LANGUAGE - e.g HOME Premium to Home premium - one exception is that W7 Ultimate will upgrade to W10 Pro as there's no W10 Ultimate.

    2) As Kari says you can install Language packs on the relevant issues of Windows - simply then in settings change the display language (and can also change the logon splash screen etc too) to your desired language.

    3) Multiple languages need W10 PRO or ENTERPRISE -- you can't add languages to HOME PREMIUM (seems silly to me but that's the rules).

    Cheers
    jimbo
     
    jimbo45, Aug 22, 2016
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