Windows 10: Samba Shares don't show up in Windows 10 Network

Discus and support Samba Shares don't show up in Windows 10 Network in Windows 10 Network and Sharing to solve the problem; Samba has kept up. It is Microsoft who is lagging behind. All versions of Samba are backwards compatible. Windows has never worked right with Samba as... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Network and Sharing' started by mbratch, Nov 22, 2015.

  1. bro67 Win User

    Samba Shares don't show up in Windows 10 Network


    Samba has kept up. It is Microsoft who is lagging behind. All versions of Samba are backwards compatible. Windows has never worked right with Samba as far back with XP, without doing the registry edit and changing the settings in Windows in Advance Sharing, to not use Homegroup, but the second choice.

    Samba writes the code, along with others who contribute. But because Microsoft Sales wants to force everyone to use Sharepoint, etc. as their server product, even though a typical home user does not need a server.

    It used to be with Samba 3.x.x, you had to use Capital letters for your username, no special characters or mix of upper and lower case letters. That was because Windows did not comprehend that info.
     
    bro67, Nov 23, 2015
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  2. jimbo45 Win User

    Hi there

    I'm running CENTOS 7 -- no problem connecting to Windows from CENTOS - should work also on other distros

    1) use smbpasswd to add your user - use the user you have on windows
    2) in the GLOBAL settings of the samba config file get your netbiosname set correctly. note This is for HOME networks - I'm not using logon domains etc. simply computers on a home LAN.


    [global]
    workgroup = WORKGROUP
    passdb backend = smbpasswd
    preferred master = yes
    printing = cups
    printcap name = cups
    printcap cache time = 750
    cups options = raw
    map to guest = Bad User
    usershare allow guests = Yes
    server string = ""
    usershare max shares = 100
    usershare owner only = false
    netbios name = gylfi
    wins support = no
    name resolve order = bcast host lmhosts wins

    Now using Dolphin or whatever you'll be able to see the machines and just double click on the Windows machine. A login popup will be displayed - enter your (Windows) username and password and you'll have access to all the shares - ensure the drives / directories are shared.

    The other way round - from Windows to Linux should be no problem provided you've added the shares in the rest of the samba configuration file.

    Note also if you have a firewall enabled in Linux allow outbound and inbound connections for SAMBA ports. Same applies for Windows connections too. Check firewall settings.

    Cheers
    jimbo
     
    jimbo45, Nov 24, 2015
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  3. morbius1 Win User
    I guess I'm having a conceptual problem with this "fix" of disabling smb2/smb3 in Windows.

    I have an Ubuntu 14.04 machine with Samba at 4.1.6. Browsing for shares from Explorer does not work for me either but I can access the Ubuntu machine directly from Run ( Win Key + R ) with ( in my case ) a
    Code: \\bart\Downloads[/quote] And the connection is made and I can access the share.

    If I open the powershell as administrator and run Get-SmbConnection to get the details of this connection I get this:

    Windows 10 is connecting to my samba server using version 3.0 of SMB.

    I don't think this is a samba version problem I think it's a more complicated issue from this Function Discovery process that Explorer now uses to "browse for" or "discover" hosts on the network.

    We got the attention of a Microsoft employee in this thread so one hopes it will eventually get fixed:
    Cannot connect to CIFS / SMB / Samba Network Shares Shared Folders in Windows 10 after update 1511/10586


     
    morbius1, Nov 25, 2015
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  4. glhs958 Win User

    Samba Shares don't show up in Windows 10 Network

    I removed netbios from my samba file share,
    added this to my smb.conf
    disable netbios = yes
    smb ports = 445
    and can now connect with no problems using \\ip or \\hostname as long as you add the host name to your windows host file.
     
    glhs958, Nov 25, 2015
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  5. morbius1 Win User
    You don't even have to mess with a host file. Windows 10 has joined the 21st century and speaks mDNS / DNS-SD ( Avahi in Linux / Bonjour in OSX ).

    You can access a Linux or OSX machine by it's hostname and a ".local" TLD. So in my example above I would access my Ubuntu machine with a:
    Code: \\bart.local\Downloads[/quote] Not more netbios, workgroups, name resolve order changes, 15 character host name length restrictions, etc... It's also way faster at connecting.

    The only thing Windows didn't do is take this to it's logical conclusion. Both OSX and Linux can "announce" to the network that they are a samba server using dns-sd. All other Linux and OSX machines will see them immediately under their respective Networks. Windows cannot do that - yet.
     
    morbius1, Nov 25, 2015
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  6. DoItJust Win User
    Not more netbios, workgroups, name resolve order changes, 15 character host name length restrictions, etc... It's also way faster at connecting.

    The only thing Windows didn't do is take this to it's logical conclusion. Both OSX and Linux can "announce" to the network that they are a samba server using dns-sd. All other Linux and OSX machines will see them immediately under their respective Networks. Windows cannot do that - yet.[/quote] You seem to know these things. Perhaps you can help?
    I have one Win10 x64, two Win7 x64, one OSX Captan and one WD MyCloud NAS connected to the network.
    On Win10 x64 v10240 all c's could see each other and the NAS in the "networkbrowser", I could access all from all. Homegroup is disabled. After the Win10 x64 10586 upgrade the OSX and the NAS completely disappeared from the Win10 machine. I have managed to make the NAS flash by once by disabling and the enabling networkdiscovery on the Win10 machine. All shares are reachable by name. Can you help?
     
    DoItJust, Nov 25, 2015
    #21
  7. morbius1 Win User
    morbius1, Nov 25, 2015
    #22
  8. DoItJust Win User

    Samba Shares don't show up in Windows 10 Network

    DoItJust, Nov 25, 2015
    #23
  9. morbius1 Win User
    morbius1, Nov 25, 2015
    #24
  10. bro67 Win User
    DoItJust, the WD MyClouds have been headaches for a lot of people. I use a Lenovo ix2-4 and have no problems with it.
     
    bro67, Nov 26, 2015
    #25
  11. jimbo45 Win User
    Hi there.

    Using Static IP's and Host names isn't a sensible answer -- too much maintenance etc.
    Netbios simply works.

    On Windows though some people report that one of the ports that used to be used in searching / retrieving data from the LAN should be disabled -- I can't remember if it was 445 or another one. This trick worked in earlier releases of W10 but AFAIK it isn't needed any more.

    I used also to have a problem when accessing WINDOWS FROM LINUX is that even if you shared the whole "C" drive most of the "C" directory wasn't shown and not all files were listed.

    Seems to work 100% these days.

    It could be the versions of Linux you are using. CENTOS is based on RED HAT ENTERPRISE which is extremely widely used for networking so I'd expect CENTOS to work perfectly as a server (which it does).

    Other distros which aren't based on existing commercial servers might not work so well -- you have to search the various 'Nix forums.

    OPENSUSE might be another good one to try as it's also based on a commercial server too.

    I'm actually quite surprised to find networking seems to be working as it should be in this release of Windows --must be a First for ms this time as windows networking has always been a dog ever since Windows first started using it !!.

    Cheers
    jimbo
     
    jimbo45, Nov 26, 2015
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  12. bro67 Win User
    Jimbo anything like printers, NAS, etc, get a Static IP on my network. Everything else gets a Dynamic IP.
     
    bro67, Nov 26, 2015
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  13. jimbo45 Win User

    Samba Shares don't show up in Windows 10 Network

    Hi there

    That's fine - I meant things like computers should have dynamic IP's.

    Did you fix the Samba issue.

    Try disabling firewalls (on all machines) while testing. Of course re-enable after you've got things working.

    Cheers
    jimbo
     
    jimbo45, Nov 26, 2015
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  14. DoItJust Win User
    Thanks, but I can't buy new hw just because of this. And I can't throw away my Mac.

    Four questions I really would like you guys who understand this give an anser to:
    Why does it work in 10240 but not in 10586, a bug or a setting changed?
    Why can I see my Nas when the air pressure is the right one? (I.e. sometimes)
    What about my Mac, are Mac's also being a headache for a lot of people?
    Best thing to do, continue looking for solution for 10586, wait for a MS fix or stay on 10240 forever?
     
    DoItJust, Nov 26, 2015
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  15. bro67 Win User
    I have not had any issues with 10586 on my wife's laptop. The samba config I use, works just fine with no issues.
     
    bro67, Nov 27, 2015
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